Who is the LONG ISLAND SERIAL KILLER? *ARREST JULY 2023*

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Who is the Long Island serial killer? This is a general discussion thread about this terrifying case.


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https://www.crimewatchers.net/threa...other-sensitive-information.3498/#post-226869
 
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Also, the killer's vehicle was seen and reported as a Chevy avalanche back in 1993 so why didnt that get followed up at the time? From the link I posted upthread

"A witness described seeing a victim, Costello, driven by a man in a Chevrolet Avalanche. It was later discovered that Heuermann owned a Chevrolet Avalanche."
yeah I saw that too and picked up on it.

having a victim from '93 and that is not the same MO is huge. it opens up all. it also shows how profiling doesn't always work.

i've always thought that anyone with a brain who can watch or read what profilers think are of course going to change it up to not get caught. i've always thought it a bit dumb, sorry, to put anyone in a box of generalization. and that's exactly what CB was doing. many a SK like the cat and mouse and the taunting like catch me if you can you dumb stupid cop... we see it in many a case. Rader is classic example. they consider themselves smarter and cops and the entire rest of the world dumb.

heck I mean if anyone read SK book for dummies 101 well....

I watch a few big time retired cop shows and most all thought these murders were at least two SKs and have admitted to it and in one case even was totally against the thought CB brought the victims home and now has admitted wrong on that thought.

the generalization and profiling should only be a tool not a rule. like they don't read or watch anything?? and adapt?? like when security cams became a bigger thing and more prevalent? like when DNA came about....?

part of their entire thing is believing they are smarter...
 
Who was it at that time? 1993. They found her pretty quickly.
His post made no sense to me. At all. The most recent victims and charges were found pretty quickly. Totally unlike the ones only found when looking for Shannon who had been dead for a long time and not found.
 
Have you got a name? Are you thinking of Spota?
A sheriff as he mentioned would be county, yet I think he is thinking of Burke who was no sheriff but I guess he can tell us who he meant.

I don't have the skills to do such but I am curious if you or anyone would know how to do a side by side of a katana and that thing or crease in RA's pants when on the bridge that everyone thought was some kind of weapon and has debated for years on end if he had something done his pants (I mean weapon, don't anyone jump to other thoughts lol). I think the katana hing could be huge... The way I recall it it could well be the weapon. The pics you found, the curve is slight...

I'm thinking at minimum that they have the girls' DNA or that of one of them on at least one thing from the search warrant if not more... It just fits. The katana does. All of it does in that RA freaked out entirely on seeing evidence... He'd have already known about the bullet and his gun, those things were in the charging documents so it was over something different...
 
A sheriff as he mentioned would be county, yet I think he is thinking of Burke who was no sheriff but I guess he can tell us who he meant.

I don't have the skills to do such but I am curious if you or anyone would know how to do a side by side of a katana and that thing or crease in RA's pants when on the bridge that everyone thought was some kind of weapon and has debated for years on end if he had something done his pants (I mean weapon, don't anyone jump to other thoughts lol). I think the katana hing could be huge... The way I recall it it could well be the weapon. The pics you found, the curve is slight...

I'm thinking at minimum that they have the girls' DNA or that of one of them on at least one thing from the search warrant if not more... It just fits. The katana does. All of it does in that RA freaked out entirely on seeing evidence... He'd have already known about the bullet and his gun, those things were in the charging documents so it was over something different...

Yeah, Burke, if he wasn't a Sheriff, what was he?
 
I guess John Ray, thought I said this earlier, did I put it in the wrong thread? Been a day. Hour on the phone with a surveyor. Had to call the pooper pumpter to pay as they don't do online payments. John Ray came out with some new sh*t and Joe and Mike were coming down on it earlier.... and Joe has had him on and been fair but weren't enamored with this.. Something about daughter Victoria for one. Caught it at he end and have had no time to go back and catch. I could have sworn I said this here earlier but don't see it... Like I said been a day. Days off over and handled a lot but not nearly enough as usual. I had hoped to call another place and get out of this hole re apartment rental and that was the third call on my list today. Surveyor took a LONG time... Never get any down time.

ANYHOW, didn't CB have a sword or two taken as well? We now know in Delphi what the katana is. I can't BELIEVE I've seen nothing or no one out there who has looked into that. Even I thought it was a hat or some such...

I know CB had tons of firearms and many or some at least old and antique or some such...
 
A sheriff as he mentioned would be county, yet I think he is thinking of Burke who was no sheriff but I guess he can tell us who he meant.

I don't have the skills to do such but I am curious if you or anyone would know how to do a side by side of a katana and that thing or crease in RA's pants when on the bridge that everyone thought was some kind of weapon and has debated for years on end if he had something done his pants (I mean weapon, don't anyone jump to other thoughts lol). I think the katana hing could be huge... The way I recall it it could well be the weapon. The pics you found, the curve is slight...

I'm thinking at minimum that they have the girls' DNA or that of one of them on at least one thing from the search warrant if not more... It just fits. The katana does. All of it does in that RA freaked out entirely on seeing evidence... He'd have already known about the bullet and his gun, those things were in the charging documents so it was over something different...
I saw another video today about katanas and how they can be carried across the back too like a quiver so RA could have had one with him. I am posting on here now because I have a link about John Ray's PC. Have to say this is some weird stuff about cannibalism by CB possibly and peculiar postings by his daughter. Here's a link.


Attorney in Gilgo Beach serial killer case suggests cannibalism may have been involved: Live updates​

Rex Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce in July 2023 after he was charged in the murders of the ‘Gilgo Four’ but has still shown up at several of his hearings​

Katie Hawkinson,Andrea Cavallier

Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann faces new charges

An attorney suggested during today’s press conference that cannibalism may have been involved in the Gilgo Beach killings.
John Ray, who represents the family of Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 sets of remains, said the “new and important evidence” regarding Heuermann’s family was recently uncovered.

Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce in July 2023 after he was charged, but has still shown up at several of his hearings.
News of the evidence comes exactly a week after Heuermann, 60, was arraigned on murder charges in the 2003 dismemberment death of Jessica Taylor, 20, and the 1993 death of Sandra Costilla, 28.
Ellerup and the couple’s two children were out of state at the time of the hearing, according to their attorney, Robert Macedonio, but were expected to be back this week.
The Manhattan architect has already been charged with the 2009 and 2010 murders of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Lynn Costello and Maureen Brainard-Barnes — known as the “Gilgo Four.” He pleaded not guilty.

Last month, Gilgo Beach Task Force investigators completed a second search of Heuermann’s home in Massapequa Park and a search of an area of Manorville.
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KEY POINTS​

1 day ago

Press conference has ended​

Attorney Ray’s press conference has ended.
Ray says he does not plan to sue the family.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 17:45

1 day ago

‘It’s BDSM to the max’​

Attorney Ray said Victoria Heuermann attempted to delete all of her social media, as did her mother Asa Ellerup.
“We found that it appears that she has erased all of her sites that she has, all of her social media,” Ray said. “She just missed these ones.”
Ray said Victoria was “brought up in this sickness.”
“When you take all of these things collectively, are you going to be able to reasonably say who knows if the mother really knew what was happening in the house? Who knows if Mr. Heuermann knew what was going on with his daughter?”
“It’s BDSM to the max,” he added. “It’s demonic.”
He then pointed to their run down house in Massapequa Park, which the family plans to stay in for now.
“It matches the demonic life,” Ray said. “Why do you think they have not left?”
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 17:07
1 day ago

Images show a ‘strange familiarity’ to Heuermann’s alleged victims, attorney says​

The images on Victoria’s alleged account show a “strange familiarity” to Heuermann’s alleged victims, Ray said, referring to Jessica Taylor.
Including one that shows someone with their limbs and hands that are cut off.
Taylor’s torso was found in July 2003 in the wooded area of Manorville. Her skull, hands and forearm, were found on Gilgo Beach in 2011.
Heuermann was charged with Taylor’s murder last week.
Another image shows a woman laying on her back. Ray, who represents Shannan Gilbert, pointed out that this is exactly how she was found.
“Make of that what you will,” he said.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:57

1 day ago

Attorney reveals graphic images from Victoria's alleged Tumbler blog​

Images from Victoria’s alleged Tumbler blog are being shown at the presser.
One image shows a hanged person with a shoe is missing . Another image appears to show remains that are “half eaten,” according to Ray .
“There are many pictures beside what I’m showing you that are equally bad or worse,” he added.
“We chose these pictures because of their significance in relation to Rex Heuermann as well as his daughter Victoria.”
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:52
1 day ago

‘We have been sold a story’​

Attorney Ray says Heuermann’s daughter Victoria has appeared as “very innocent” in front of the press.
”The evidence that we have suggests that we have been sold a story by the Heuermann family,” he said.
He then showed a picture of Victoria “as she really is as she portrays herself on the internet.”
She is holding artwork of a human skull.
“That’s just the beginning,” he said.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:36
1 day ago

Attorney focuses on Heuermann's children​

Attorny John Ray said he will speak today about one of Heuermann’s children and the “implications” it holds.
He said he is pointing only toward “circumstantial evidence,” including “inescapable conclusions.”
Ray then added that cannibalism was potentially involved in the murders.
Danika Fears13 June 2024 16:33

1 day ago

Watch live: Attorney to reveal ‘evidence’ regarding Rex Heuermann’s family​

Press Conference Heuermann Family
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:24
1 day ago

Presser on ‘surprising’ evidence about Rex Heuermann’s family is starting​

Attorney John Ray has called a press conference to reveal “surprising evidence” regarding the family of Rex Heuermann.
The presser is starting now outside Attorney Ray’s office in Suffolk County.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:19
1 day ago

Rex Heuermann’s wife claims to know nothing about his ‘double life’​

Heuermann’s wife Asa Ellerup has previously claimed to know nothing about the suspected serial killer’s “double life.”
“After 27 years with Mr. Heuermann, Ms. Ellerup maintains the belief that her estranged husband is not capable of committing these heinous acts,” Robert Macedonio, Ellerup’s attorney, told Newsweek.
The Gilgo Homicide Task Force confirm Heuermann’s wife and children were out of state at the time of Jessica Taylor’s disappearance. Heuermann was charged with Taylor’s murder last week.
The family was in Virginia from July 20 to 27 that year, according to Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney.
Heuermann’s adult children, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan, have been “caught in the cross hairs of this deeply unfortunate case that they have nothing to do with other than they are related to Mr. Heuermann,” according to their attorney Vess Mitev.
Asa Ellerup, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan

Asa Ellerup, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan (GoFundMe)
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:10

1 day ago

Inside alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann’s ‘how to kill’ document​

 
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The above link also states that CB is a suspect in Valerie Mack's murder. See below excerpt.

District Attorney says ‘fair’ to say Heuermann is suspect in seventh murder not included in today’s indictment​

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said it’s “fair” to say Rex Heuermann is a suspect in a seventh murder.
The Manhattan architect was initially charged with the 2009 and 2010 murders of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Lynn Costello and Maureen Brainard-Barnes — known as the “Gilgo Four.” Now, he faces new charges for the 2003 dismemberment death of 20-year-old Jessica Taylor and the 1993 death of 28-year-old Sandra Costilla.
Tierney says Heuermann may be a suspect in the murder of Valerie Mack.
Gilgo Beach Task Force investigators completed a second search of Heuermann’s home in Massapequa Park and a search of an area of Manorville where the partial remains of both Taylor and Mack were found more than two decades ago.
However, Mack’s murder was not included in Thursday’s indictment.
 
I saw another video today about katanas and how they can be carried across the back too like a quiver so RA could have had one with him. I am posting on here now because I have a link about John Ray's PC. Have to say this is some weird stuff about cannibalism by CB possibly and peculiar postings by his daughter. Here's a link.


Attorney in Gilgo Beach serial killer case suggests cannibalism may have been involved: Live updates​

Rex Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce in July 2023 after he was charged in the murders of the ‘Gilgo Four’ but has still shown up at several of his hearings​

Katie Hawkinson,Andrea Cavallier

Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann faces new charges

An attorney suggested during today’s press conference that cannibalism may have been involved in the Gilgo Beach killings.
John Ray, who represents the family of Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 sets of remains, said the “new and important evidence” regarding Heuermann’s family was recently uncovered.

Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce in July 2023 after he was charged, but has still shown up at several of his hearings.
News of the evidence comes exactly a week after Heuermann, 60, was arraigned on murder charges in the 2003 dismemberment death of Jessica Taylor, 20, and the 1993 death of Sandra Costilla, 28.
Ellerup and the couple’s two children were out of state at the time of the hearing, according to their attorney, Robert Macedonio, but were expected to be back this week.
The Manhattan architect has already been charged with the 2009 and 2010 murders of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Lynn Costello and Maureen Brainard-Barnes — known as the “Gilgo Four.” He pleaded not guilty.

Last month, Gilgo Beach Task Force investigators completed a second search of Heuermann’s home in Massapequa Park and a search of an area of Manorville.
RECOMMENDED

KEY POINTS​

1 day ago

Press conference has ended​

Attorney Ray’s press conference has ended.
Ray says he does not plan to sue the family.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 17:45

1 day ago

‘It’s BDSM to the max’​

Attorney Ray said Victoria Heuermann attempted to delete all of her social media, as did her mother Asa Ellerup.
“We found that it appears that she has erased all of her sites that she has, all of her social media,” Ray said. “She just missed these ones.”
Ray said Victoria was “brought up in this sickness.”
“When you take all of these things collectively, are you going to be able to reasonably say who knows if the mother really knew what was happening in the house? Who knows if Mr. Heuermann knew what was going on with his daughter?”
“It’s BDSM to the max,” he added. “It’s demonic.”
He then pointed to their run down house in Massapequa Park, which the family plans to stay in for now.
“It matches the demonic life,” Ray said. “Why do you think they have not left?”
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 17:07
1 day ago

Images show a ‘strange familiarity’ to Heuermann’s alleged victims, attorney says​

The images on Victoria’s alleged account show a “strange familiarity” to Heuermann’s alleged victims, Ray said, referring to Jessica Taylor.
Including one that shows someone with their limbs and hands that are cut off.
Taylor’s torso was found in July 2003 in the wooded area of Manorville. Her skull, hands and forearm, were found on Gilgo Beach in 2011.
Heuermann was charged with Taylor’s murder last week.
Another image shows a woman laying on her back. Ray, who represents Shannan Gilbert, pointed out that this is exactly how she was found.
“Make of that what you will,” he said.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:57

1 day ago

Attorney reveals graphic images from Victoria's alleged Tumbler blog​

Images from Victoria’s alleged Tumbler blog are being shown at the presser.
One image shows a hanged person with a shoe is missing . Another image appears to show remains that are “half eaten,” according to Ray .
“There are many pictures beside what I’m showing you that are equally bad or worse,” he added.
“We chose these pictures because of their significance in relation to Rex Heuermann as well as his daughter Victoria.”
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:52
1 day ago

‘We have been sold a story’​

Attorney Ray says Heuermann’s daughter Victoria has appeared as “very innocent” in front of the press.
”The evidence that we have suggests that we have been sold a story by the Heuermann family,” he said.
He then showed a picture of Victoria “as she really is as she portrays herself on the internet.”
She is holding artwork of a human skull.
“That’s just the beginning,” he said.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:36
1 day ago

Attorney focuses on Heuermann's children​

Attorny John Ray said he will speak today about one of Heuermann’s children and the “implications” it holds.
He said he is pointing only toward “circumstantial evidence,” including “inescapable conclusions.”
Ray then added that cannibalism was potentially involved in the murders.
Danika Fears13 June 2024 16:33

1 day ago

Watch live: Attorney to reveal ‘evidence’ regarding Rex Heuermann’s family​

Press Conference Heuermann Family
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:24
1 day ago

Presser on ‘surprising’ evidence about Rex Heuermann’s family is starting​

Attorney John Ray has called a press conference to reveal “surprising evidence” regarding the family of Rex Heuermann.
The presser is starting now outside Attorney Ray’s office in Suffolk County.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:19
1 day ago

Rex Heuermann’s wife claims to know nothing about his ‘double life’​

Heuermann’s wife Asa Ellerup has previously claimed to know nothing about the suspected serial killer’s “double life.”
“After 27 years with Mr. Heuermann, Ms. Ellerup maintains the belief that her estranged husband is not capable of committing these heinous acts,” Robert Macedonio, Ellerup’s attorney, told Newsweek.
The Gilgo Homicide Task Force confirm Heuermann’s wife and children were out of state at the time of Jessica Taylor’s disappearance. Heuermann was charged with Taylor’s murder last week.
The family was in Virginia from July 20 to 27 that year, according to Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney.
Heuermann’s adult children, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan, have been “caught in the cross hairs of this deeply unfortunate case that they have nothing to do with other than they are related to Mr. Heuermann,” according to their attorney Vess Mitev.
Asa Ellerup, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan

Asa Ellerup, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan (GoFundMe)
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:10

1 day ago

Inside alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann’s ‘how to kill’ document​

Okay. First I did not look at any of the links here I am out of time but did read the entire post. I woke up this morning at about 7:30 I think it was (that is sleeping in and boy I needed it) and before coffee refreshed YT and found Joe live with Mike. At the same time I was doing things and trying to wake up. I in time picked up it was about John Ray and heard reference to CB's daughter Victoira. I heard the word cannibalism. I think by then they were answering questions. I could have backed it up to listen from the beginning but I like to see lives and it still was live so Idid not want to miss any part of the live and I had already missed the first part.

As it went on I picked up on that Joe was kind of coming down on Ray and saying he didn't' see what he was saying and doing as to what it added, etc. I am paraphrasing. ANd he's been fair to him prior imo. Mike said similar but was a bit less judgmental about it...

I still don't know about it and what you posted here I have no time to read the links, there are also 900 pages out on Soto and I never got to get on top of that either.

I gather Victoria was on something or searching something or an account of hers was and she had pics that matched the victims or some such as to how their bodies were found or parts missing?

I never did catch the cannibalism part and maybe I should say this in the other thread. And this was the thing I think that really bothered Joe and he could not see what it added.

Well yeah. Not a one of us want to hear this sh*t and in the worst case is it necessary in court etc. or to tell the public or overshock them or put them in fear and think they can't handle it? I don't want to hear sh*t like that. However, if true then that's a harder call.

Anyhow I have NO IDEA what this is all about or what said and if true. They or at least Joe felt Ray was really off or out of line or some such. Again I never heard it from the beginning and never go a chance to all day.

Again I cannot stress enough that I have not seen Ray's thing and I came into Joe's show late and never did get to watch or listen to it all and haven't read the links you found here. And may never with time and as new news comes get the time to. But Joe was dissing him I got that much even while saying he has had him on which he has before but feeling this time he is out there with this or some such or it is unnecessary, helps nothing, adds nothing even IF it were true or not.

I am going to have to read other's posts on it here as I will never get to it and what they think if you or they can find time to watch Ray, etc. as i'm not going to be able to.
 
I saw another video today about katanas and how they can be carried across the back too like a quiver so RA could have had one with him. I am posting on here now because I have a link about John Ray's PC. Have to say this is some weird stuff about cannibalism by CB possibly and peculiar postings by his daughter. Here's a link.


Attorney in Gilgo Beach serial killer case suggests cannibalism may have been involved: Live updates​

Rex Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce in July 2023 after he was charged in the murders of the ‘Gilgo Four’ but has still shown up at several of his hearings​

Katie Hawkinson,Andrea Cavallier

Suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann faces new charges

An attorney suggested during today’s press conference that cannibalism may have been involved in the Gilgo Beach killings.
John Ray, who represents the family of Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 sets of remains, said the “new and important evidence” regarding Heuermann’s family was recently uncovered.

Heuermann’s estranged wife, Asa Ellerup, filed for divorce in July 2023 after he was charged, but has still shown up at several of his hearings.
News of the evidence comes exactly a week after Heuermann, 60, was arraigned on murder charges in the 2003 dismemberment death of Jessica Taylor, 20, and the 1993 death of Sandra Costilla, 28.
Ellerup and the couple’s two children were out of state at the time of the hearing, according to their attorney, Robert Macedonio, but were expected to be back this week.
The Manhattan architect has already been charged with the 2009 and 2010 murders of Megan Waterman, Melissa Barthelemy, Amber Lynn Costello and Maureen Brainard-Barnes — known as the “Gilgo Four.” He pleaded not guilty.

Last month, Gilgo Beach Task Force investigators completed a second search of Heuermann’s home in Massapequa Park and a search of an area of Manorville.
RECOMMENDED

KEY POINTS​

1 day ago

Press conference has ended​

Attorney Ray’s press conference has ended.
Ray says he does not plan to sue the family.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 17:45

1 day ago

‘It’s BDSM to the max’​

Attorney Ray said Victoria Heuermann attempted to delete all of her social media, as did her mother Asa Ellerup.
“We found that it appears that she has erased all of her sites that she has, all of her social media,” Ray said. “She just missed these ones.”
Ray said Victoria was “brought up in this sickness.”
“When you take all of these things collectively, are you going to be able to reasonably say who knows if the mother really knew what was happening in the house? Who knows if Mr. Heuermann knew what was going on with his daughter?”
“It’s BDSM to the max,” he added. “It’s demonic.”
He then pointed to their run down house in Massapequa Park, which the family plans to stay in for now.
“It matches the demonic life,” Ray said. “Why do you think they have not left?”
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 17:07
1 day ago

Images show a ‘strange familiarity’ to Heuermann’s alleged victims, attorney says​

The images on Victoria’s alleged account show a “strange familiarity” to Heuermann’s alleged victims, Ray said, referring to Jessica Taylor.
Including one that shows someone with their limbs and hands that are cut off.
Taylor’s torso was found in July 2003 in the wooded area of Manorville. Her skull, hands and forearm, were found on Gilgo Beach in 2011.
Heuermann was charged with Taylor’s murder last week.
Another image shows a woman laying on her back. Ray, who represents Shannan Gilbert, pointed out that this is exactly how she was found.
“Make of that what you will,” he said.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:57

1 day ago

Attorney reveals graphic images from Victoria's alleged Tumbler blog​

Images from Victoria’s alleged Tumbler blog are being shown at the presser.
One image shows a hanged person with a shoe is missing . Another image appears to show remains that are “half eaten,” according to Ray .
“There are many pictures beside what I’m showing you that are equally bad or worse,” he added.
“We chose these pictures because of their significance in relation to Rex Heuermann as well as his daughter Victoria.”
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:52
1 day ago

‘We have been sold a story’​

Attorney Ray says Heuermann’s daughter Victoria has appeared as “very innocent” in front of the press.
”The evidence that we have suggests that we have been sold a story by the Heuermann family,” he said.
He then showed a picture of Victoria “as she really is as she portrays herself on the internet.”
She is holding artwork of a human skull.
“That’s just the beginning,” he said.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:36
1 day ago

Attorney focuses on Heuermann's children​

Attorny John Ray said he will speak today about one of Heuermann’s children and the “implications” it holds.
He said he is pointing only toward “circumstantial evidence,” including “inescapable conclusions.”
Ray then added that cannibalism was potentially involved in the murders.
Danika Fears13 June 2024 16:33

1 day ago

Watch live: Attorney to reveal ‘evidence’ regarding Rex Heuermann’s family​

Press Conference Heuermann Family
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:24
1 day ago

Presser on ‘surprising’ evidence about Rex Heuermann’s family is starting​

Attorney John Ray has called a press conference to reveal “surprising evidence” regarding the family of Rex Heuermann.
The presser is starting now outside Attorney Ray’s office in Suffolk County.
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:19
1 day ago

Rex Heuermann’s wife claims to know nothing about his ‘double life’​

Heuermann’s wife Asa Ellerup has previously claimed to know nothing about the suspected serial killer’s “double life.”
“After 27 years with Mr. Heuermann, Ms. Ellerup maintains the belief that her estranged husband is not capable of committing these heinous acts,” Robert Macedonio, Ellerup’s attorney, told Newsweek.
The Gilgo Homicide Task Force confirm Heuermann’s wife and children were out of state at the time of Jessica Taylor’s disappearance. Heuermann was charged with Taylor’s murder last week.
The family was in Virginia from July 20 to 27 that year, according to Suffolk County District Attorney Raymond Tierney.
Heuermann’s adult children, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan, have been “caught in the cross hairs of this deeply unfortunate case that they have nothing to do with other than they are related to Mr. Heuermann,” according to their attorney Vess Mitev.
Asa Ellerup, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan

Asa Ellerup, Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan (GoFundMe)
Andrea Cavallier13 June 2024 16:10

1 day ago

Inside alleged serial killer Rex Heuermann’s ‘how to kill’ document​

No time but had to revisit this as I haven't had the time to fully look at and still haven't. I caught it on Joe the other day but too late in the live to know all and you went and found it. He was pretty much coming down on Ray. I don't know enough to comment and feel fully informed but someone on there said to go watch the full presser, that there are a LOT of facts, nuggets and info. I am unsure if they mean RAy's presser or Tierney's. Pretty sure they meant Rays, just guessing. MAN if I had time in life I'd be looking at ALL of this...

And diving in. Head first like I used to.

I think we need @Mel70 SKs and their families are her thing, I don't think she has much time either but she sure knows a lot on such. Mel he changed MOs and now is responsible for a murder from '93, had a planning document, etc. And thoughts on daughter....? If you get time.
 
Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke refused FBI assistance when the bodies were found in Gilgo Beach.

Long read but great background on the history of LISK.

No time right now but hope to read. Burke caused so much damage to his case/s. That someone like him could even get into such a position speaks volumes for those that think we are all protected by and governed by those that will keep us all safe, etc.

County is usually a sheriff and not a chief and so that's probably where emu was getting that thought. Chiefs are usually city, city police chief, county sheriff. It's how it is where I am anyhow.
 
So have had no time to get on top of it but been listening to this while trying to get ready and force myself to another long work week. Sigh.

Even though it says it is about CB, it starts out about Read and I am done with that case. I hardly cared to being with and care even less now, I tried but I've never seen a case here so out of whatever, I don't even have the word for it. Delphi comes close at times but nothing like that one where people can't even talk of it or maintain reason imo. So that irritated me but I ignored the Read part and now they are into this case and the John Ray presser. One guest disses him, so did Joe last night I think it was, no yesterday morning, and I never did get time to go back and listen to what the deal really was. This one this morning I am hearing more of what it is about re the daughter. I won't have time again to listen to it all but getting more of an idea of what they deal is. While the; guest somewhat disses Ray and it, some viewers are saying otherwise and that this should be known and so on and giving Ray credit.

I am sorry to say that I don't have a big problem making the leap or wondering what the family knew or even was involved in. I'm not going to jump as I haven't heard all but tell me no one has had a though of the daughter when first seen and she worked with dad and failed to launch. And just LOOK at that house and the size of it. Did she travel with dad back and forth as well?

You know what is creepy as HE77 too is that in THREE cases now former serial killers have played in... Or come in. Or their families or children, etc. It is flat out WEIRD. This one, Kohberger and I am drawing a blank on the third but there is a third. Happy Face, Rader, Rader's daughter, Happy Face's daughter, CB with his SK books and profiler books... WEIRD. Now here we have another daughter....

WTH is going on in this world. Do we have some kind of family SK club online or future SK club? I am half joking but not entirely...

Then they start GFMs for each other and Asa gets a million plus deal and her and the kids profit and sue the city...

The kids and her instantly have their own lawyers. Never seen anything LIKE it.

Again I am not going to get to finish this but it is disturbing and they haven't even shown all of this "childs" images she drew or had.

I already felt Asa knew or was part and wondered about the size of that house and the goings on and the kids...

Not sure, haven't decided and haven't heard all but let's just say this, this sh*t couldn't be shared if it didn't exist and match some of the victims.... I have seen some thinking he might have been using an account in her name or wondering.... And I still don't know what all of it is about but now have an idea anyhow and again I won't likely get to finish it or maybe even get back to it ever. I do have a better idea now.

The one guest says the public and all no we don't have a right to know everything. Well I disagree totally with that remark. Maybe not NOW we don't due to an investigation or some such but in time we damned well should and do. Secrecy brings nothing good to anyone and just breeds suspicion. And much is done in the name of protecting the public etc., b.s. Should we not know by now everythingi they know about the JFK assassination? I know that's a 180 or more for a topic but just saying what secrecy breeds for thoughts, conspiracies and more...

I thought that entire family was weird from the minute I saw them, Asa and Victoiria anyhow. I'm not one to judge on appearance ever but we have to consider they lived with an SK for decades. I will leave the son out of it of course.

And THEN they PROFIT doing a show. And immediately Rader's daughter and Happy Face's were helping and reaching out to them. WEIRD. Was that their first connection...? I really have to wonder.. Then Happy wrote to CB... ANd CB had all these books about SK and plans....

It isn't hard for me to believe this daughter was into something and they all knew each other prior online or some such. This is flat out freaking weird. Has been from the start.

Because of flak, thank goodness, both daughters of the other two SKs went silent after being vocal. These are my thoughts and things noticed from day one. In fact Kerry was vocal on several cases including Kohberger but stepped back.

There is something really wrong here. Really wrong.

Anyhow is starts with REad don't ask me why and then gets into John RAy's presser. I have not finished and have to go.

 
Yeah, Burke, if he wasn't a Sheriff, what was he?
He was a narcotics undercover cop I thought. He didnt become Chief till around 2011 IIRC.
Suffolk County Police Chief James Burke refused FBI assistance when the bodies were found in Gilgo Beach.

Long read but great background on the history of LISK.

This info below is from @kdg411 post above. A lot is about Burke



Why Hasn’t the Long Island Serial Killer Case Been Solved?​

Six years since first bodies were found near remote beaches, there's still no trace of a killer
BY ELLEN KILLORAN
DECEMBER 15, 2016
Long Island Serial Killer

An officer from the Suffolk County Police Department's K-9 Unit uses a dog to search through the brush along the median of Ocean Parkway, near Oak Beach in Long Island, N.Y., on December 5th, 2011 KEVIN P. COUGHLIN/AP
IT WAS AROUND dawn on a clear spring morning when Shannan Gilbert disappeared in Oak Beach, Long Island. A secluded, semi-private community at the eastern tip of a narrow barrier island, Oak Beach is a few miles from the line separating Nassau County from Suffolk. Just 35 miles from Manhattan, the town is decidedly not a tourist destination. The first thing to notice about Oak Beach is how quiet it is – even on the brightest days, there’s more likely to be residents tending to their yards or their boats than splashing in the ocean. To the east is wild, whispering marshland that seems worlds away from the few cars running right alongside it on Ocean Parkway. Dense vegetation separates the oceanfront community from the road, leaving it in a thick, deafening silence. That’s where the story of the Long Island Serial Killer began.
On the night of May 1st, 2010, Gilbert, a young Craigslist escort, had been with Joseph Brewer, a first-time client, at his home. Brewer lived near the gated entrance to Oak Beach Association, a modestly upscale collection of a few dozen homes built closely together along narrow roads that descend to the ocean-facing beach. Gilbert, a warm-hearted 24-year-old raised primarily in foster care, fell into prostitution the same way many women do: an unstable upbringing, an uncertain future, the alternative of earning less in 40 hours at minimum wage than in one day as an escort. Gilbert craved the spotlight and aspired to be a professional singer, though she used her relative economic power as a means to reconnect with her family. Her date with Brewer would pay for a birthday gift for her mother Mari, who later told a reporter she tried to talk Shannan out of working that night, that just having her there for a visit was present enough.


Shortly before she was last seen, Gilbert placed a 23-minute 911 call while still at Brewer’s home, reportedly screaming, “they’re trying to kill me.” According to a deposition Brewer later gave, Gilbert, who had been diagnosed as bipolar but was not taking medication, became inexplicably unhinged, and Brewer enlisted Gilbert’s driver Michael Pak to help end the date. At some point after placing the 911 call, Gilbert ran from Pak and Brewer into the darkness, banging on neighbor’s doors and begging for help. By the time police arrived – beckoned by two Oak Beach residents who Gilbert encountered in her panicked frenzy – she was nowhere to be seen.


According to a timeline provided to Rolling Stone by Suffolk County Police Chief Stu Cameron, it was December 10th, 2010 when detective John Mallia, accompanied by a K9 in training, found skeletal remains along the northern edge of Ocean Parkway. Initially, investigators assumed Mallia had found Gilbert. But the deceased was identified as Melissa Barthelemy of the Bronx, a young woman who advertised escort services on Craigslist and was last seen in July 2009. Soon after, while Mallia was searching the immediate vicinity for further evidence, he came upon the remains of three more missing persons: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Amber Costello and Megan Waterman. All were petite, twentysomething women. All had worked as escorts. Because of the proximity of their burial ground to a secluded waterfront called Gilgo Beach, they became known as the Gilgo Four.


For a little while, all eyes in New York City were on the island, as press swarmed the search area, hoping to catch a glimpse, a clue – even another body. Long Island didn’t feel like a breezy weekend getaway anymore. By the time Gilbert’s body was discovered on December 13th, 2011, in a marsh adjacent to Oak Beach, six more sets of remains had been found, for a total of 10, excluding Gilbert: four further west on Ocean Parkway, one in nearby Nassau County, and a skull in Tobay Beach, which was matched to a set of legs found on Fire Island in 1996. Police suspect they are all victims of a serial killer, and five – including a mother and child – have yet to be identified.
Now, six years after the discovery of a possible serial killer on Long Island, police have still not apprehended any suspects. There may be one killer or multiple, working in tandem or just using the same dumping ground. It could be that the killer was simply clever – knowledgeable about the difficult terrain on the barrier island and the gaps in police presence in its secluded beaches. Some have suggested early stages of the police investigation were compromised by leadership later charged with mishandling other cases – or by the fact that the leadership suddenly changed shortly after the discovery of Gilbert’s body. Moreover, many of these questions have focused on death of Gilbert – but she might not have even been a victim of the Long Island Serial Killer at all. And if her death was really just a tragic coincidence, how much has her case been a distraction from finding the real killer?



It was the perfect place to hide a body, there along the quiet beach on the barrier island, obscured by thick bramble. That’s led to some believing that the killer knew what he was doing – for example, the murdered child and the victim thought to be the child’s mother were buried a distance away from each other, on opposite sides of the Nassau-Suffolk county line. “Separating the mother and child was such an intentional act,” says Joshua Zeman, a Long Island native who spent the last four years researching the Long Island Serial Killer case for the A&E series The Killing Season. “[The killer] was trying to confuse law enforcement and the medical examiners, because he knew they would have to be investigated by separate counties.” Just this week, Zeman and his executive producer Rachel Mills helped to discover a DNA link of that mother’s remains to a torso found 20 miles away in Nassau County in 1997, providing a possible clue to the case, and revealing another tactic on the part of the killer to make things difficult for law enforcement.
Besides the punishing terrain, the killer had another advantage: namely, the victims’ profession. Sex workers often use “burner phones” to communicate with clients, making it hard to trace their movements. They tend to be secretive, like Melissa Barthelemy, who hadn’t told her family she was working as an escort. Megan Waterman’s family knew she was involved in sex work, but the night she went missing she called a family member from a hotel around midnight, saying she was going to bed. She left her cell phone and wallet behind. Costello didn’t bring a phone to her meeting – it has been suggested that the killer convinced her to leave her phone behind, but she’d used her roommate’s phone to set up the date, so it’s unclear if she had her own at the time. And Barthelemy must have had her phone, because a man presumed to be her killer made repeated calls from her phone to her younger sister in the days after she disappeared. While it’s hard to say how helpful the phone records have been in the investigation, former Suffolk County Chief of Detectives Dominick Varrone, who was actively involved in the investigation until he retired in late 2011, says that phones and phone records “were a big part of the investigation, and I’m guessing they still are.”
Beyond the choice of victims, there are indications that the killer may have knowingly made things harder on the police. “These killers are using the inadequacies of law enforcement against them,” Killing Season director Zeman says. “Databases that don’t talk to each other, territorialism, bureaucracy.”


The killer’s chosen dumping ground certainly posed challenges. The shoulder alongside Ocean Parkway may be narrow, but it is thick with hostile vegetation. SCPD Chief Cameron, who was the Commanding Officer of the Special Patrol Bureau at the time the Gilgo Four were discovered, describes treacherous conditions as the search for victims expanded, with increasing urgency as the days got shorter and colder, bringing the promise of snow. “It’s brambles, briars, which rip and tear at your clothes and your skin; there’s very very dense poison ivy, there’s ticks,” he says. “These were very challenging and difficult conditions we were working under.” Cameron says he drove with some reporters along the Ocean Parkway shoulder, near where the cadaver dogs were searching with detectives, wanting to give them an idea of what investigators were facing. “On one particular occasion I stopped and let them out [of the vehicle] and said, ‘K9 is working right here.’ And they said, ‘I hear noise but I don’t see anything.'”
“Well, exactly,” Cameron says. “They were only a foot or two into the vegetation yet they were completely invisible from the roadway shoulder.”
Suffolk County Police

After the first bodies were found in 2010 and Gilbert was not among them, her disappearance took on a new urgency. For a year, Gilbert was seen as a critical missing piece in an increasingly sinister puzzle. During that time, former Suffolk County Police Department Commissioner Richard Dormer appeared on a 48 Hours special about the Long Island Serial Killer. Asked what he thought happened to Gilbert, Dormer said, “That’s the $64,000 question.” It’s clear from talking to SCDP investigators, both current and former, that law enforcement fully expected to find Gilbert dead, if she was found at all. But what happened after she was found has kept her story at the center of the Long Island Serial Killer narrative, even though she may not have been a victim.


Before a medical examiner had completed a report on Gilbert’s remains, Dormer told reporters that he believed Gilbert’s death was an accident, not a homicide – a preemptive conclusion that angered Gilbert’s family (who believed she had been murdered) and opened the police department to accusations that they weren’t properly investigating her death. The Suffolk County medical examiner eventually ruled that Gilbert’s cause of death was inconclusive. Gilbert’s family hired an independent coroner to perform a follow-up autopsy, which was also inconclusive, but found indications that Gilbert may have been strangled.
Current SPCD Commissioner Timothy Sini would not comment to RS on whether Gilbert’s death is still being investigated as a possible homicide, and Dormer says he stands by his initial assessment that it was not foul play. Not one member of law enforcement interviewed for this story who was willing to comment on Gilbert’s cause of death believes that Gilbert was a victim of the Long Island Serial Killer. One source describes her disappearance and death as “a ridiculous coincidence.” Robert Kolker, journalist and author of the book on LISK, Lost Girls, doesn’t believe Gilbert was the victim of a serial killer, but isn’t sure that she alone contributed to her demise. And the Gilberts, too, are still not convinced. According to their lawyer, John Ray, “It’s absurd to say she drowned.”
But aside from questions about her cause of death, there are several key differences between Gilbert’s disappearance and that of the Gilgo Four. The bodies on Gilgo Beach were found buried – according to an interview Detective Mallia gave to the New York Times in April 2011, at least two of the bodies were wrapped in burlap sacks, though the current police administration will not confirm this – while Gilbert was found partially exposed in the marsh, with some clothes and personal items found a few hundred yards away. It has been repeatedly reported that the Gilgo Four were all strangled, but Varrone says those four women were found to have died of asphyxiation, which is the more general term for deprivation of oxygen and can be the result of choking, drowning or suffocation.


Gilgo Beach

In the absence of substantive updates from the Suffolk County Police Department, conspiracy theories have filled the silence. The Long Island Serial Killer case has become a popular topic on internet forums like Websleuths, Reddit and numerous Facebook groups devoted to the investigation. Among these groups of internet sleuths, there are strong but wildly varying opinions on who the killer might be and whether Gilbert was a victim. An amateur researcher named Robert Anderson obtained a copy of what he believes to be Gilbert’s official autopsy report and delivered his findings in an August 2016 podcast. “The common-sense narrative is that she fell in a muddy area,” he said, noting that the medical examiner had very little to work with; by the time Gilbert was discovered, not much remained beyond bones and hair. Still, we know more about Gilbert’s disappearance and recovery than we do about any of the presumed serial killer victims. “If a tenth of the effort that has been put on to the analysis of the incident in Oak Beach had been applied to these other four, I think we’d be collectively further along in the narrative,” Anderson said.
But the disproportionate focus on Gilbert may have occurred because the events of the night have become so convoluted. In part, that was because there was simply more information: Gilbert was less secretive than the other four about where she was going and what she was doing the night she disappeared. She was the only one among them working with a driver, and she was the only one known to have made a 911 call. Her boyfriend, Alex Diaz, and her driver, Pak, were in contact with each other immediately after her disappearance, and teamed up to look for her. Unlike the friends and families of the Gilgo Four, people in Gilbert’s life knew where she went for her final date. Like three of the families of the Gilgo Four, Gilbert’s family filed a missing-person report. But law enforcement wasn’t able to connect the dots until it was too late.


According to Lost Girls, Gilbert dabbled in recreational drugs – she’d do a little cocaine if a client wanted to party, and sometimes sought out ecstasy on her own. Pak told Kolker she liked to drink, and both he and another driver who’d worked with Gilbert said that her moods could be unpredictable. Pak also said he saw Gilbert and Brewer leave in Brewer’s car for about 15 minutes. When questioned about the nature of the errand during a deposition, Brewer pleaded the fifth, but Gilbert family lawyer John Ray says Brewer told him one-on-one that he and Gilbert had gone to a CVS on the mainland. Pak told Kolker he wouldn’t have been surprised if Gilbert was going to pick up drugs, but he also told a reporter in 2011 that Gilbert had asked him to go to CVS to buy lubricant and a deck of playing cards, and he refused.
But perhaps the most baffling part of the story is the place of Dr. Peter Hackett, a local physician. In the years since her disappearance, Gilbert’s family has honed in on him as the culprit in their daughter’s death. They’ve accused him of encountering Gilbert after she ran off from the neighbors who called 911, and giving her drugs that contributed to her death. “She was not acting rationally,” Varrone says of Gilbert’s final hours. “She was demonstrating paranoid behavior, in some kind of psychotic state.” Hackett has consistently denied ever meeting Gilbert.
Mari Gilbert

In 2012, Shannan’s family filed civil suit against Hackett, alleging that he negligently administered medical care and drugs and caused her wrongful death. Gilbert’s mother Mari claimed he called her a few days after Gilbert disappeared, saying he ran a home for “wayward women” and had taken her in for a brief period on the morning she was last seen, an accusation that Hackett has vehemently denied. Hackett also initially denied calling Gilbert’s mother, though he later admitted that part of her claim was true, which phone records backed up. (Hackett’s attorney declined an interview with Rolling Stone on his behalf.) Ray, a seasoned litigator with a penchant for flashy accessorizing – who claims to have logged hundreds of hours on the case without a payday in sight – says the civil suit is still active, though it was significantly hobbled in 2013 when a judge dismissed a large portion of the case, including all the counts for wrongful death.


Internet sleuths perplexed by the investigation want to know why the police haven’t been more transparent: particularly in regard to the 911 call Gilbert made the night she disappeared, which police have refused to release. If police are so sure that Gilbert wasn’t a victim of the Long Island Serial Killer, the critics argue, what would be the harm in revealing the contents of the call? “I can’t trust what the police say is on those 911 tapes,” says Ray. Dormer believes the 911 call should be released to the public. Refusing to do so “gives the appearance that the police department is covering something up,” he says. “If you’re going to be transparent you have to work with the media.”
Then last summer, six full years since her disappearance, Gilbert was back in the news again: her younger sister Sarra had stabbed her mother Mari to death. Gone was the key witness in the suit against Hackett, and one of the loudest critics of the police, who insisted until her death that her daughter’s case should be investigated as a homicide. Ray is also defending Sarra Gilbert, who was diagnosed with schizophrenia and was hospitalized 10 times in the the three years preceding her mother’s murder. Two months before she killed her mother, the younger Gilbert, who was earlier interviewed by 48 Hours about her sister’s disappearance, was indicted on charges of child endangerment and aggravated animal cruelty for the slaying of a pitbull. She pleaded not guilty to Mari Gilbert’s murder by reason of insanity.
Through it all, Ray has insisted that Hackett is somehow responsible for Gilbert’s death, yet he acknowledges that “an inherent problem we have always had is establishing a direct causal relationship between Hackett’s actions and Shannan’s death.” Indeed, there has been no evidence to show that Hackett encountered Gilbert on the morning she disappeared, and Hackett has insisted that he called Mari Gilbert, at the urging of Diaz and Pak, simply to offer his support.
Richard Dormer



The Suffolk County police department is one of the country’s biggest, but the county itself exists in something of a bubble – it’s at the easternmost point of New York state, surrounded on three sides by water. In December 2011, just days after Gilbert’s body was found in the Oak Beach marsh, newly appointed County Executive Steve Bellone announced that James Burke, then a chief investigator in the District Attorney’s Office, would take over as police chief in January 2012. According to both Varrone and former Assistant Chief of Patrol Patrick Cuff, they and two other department chiefs were told they would have to retire by the end of the month or be demoted to captain. (Cuff was the only one to choose the lower-ranking position, as he was not financially ready to retire.) “I was hoping to stay in light of my expertise and involvement in the case and was surprised to be let go so suddenly,” says Varrone, who claims he was not given a debriefing with the incoming leadership on the LISK case. Former Commissioner Dormer, who had already been planning on retiring at the end of 2011, agrees that “there was no transition within the police department. Burke never sat down with me and talked to me and he didn’t talk to Varrone. It was probably the biggest homicide investigation in Suffolk County history. We were right in the middle of this.”
Burke, who became chief a year after the first bodies were discovered, had a long history with District Attorney Thomas Spota. The two first became acquainted when Burke, age 14, was a key witness for the prosecution in a brutal 1979 murder of a 13-year-old boy, John Pius, who died of suffocation after stones were shoved down his throat. Spota was one of the prosecuting attorneys on the trial, which put four teenagers behind bars. With little physical evidence to tie the young men to the killing, the convictions were based heavily on witness accounts and a confession by one of the accused, whose conviction was later thrown out. Years later, another of the four confessed to attempted manslaughter for his role in the killing. Attorney Frank Bress, who defended one of the young men in one of the case’s many appeals, told Vice he thought Burke’s testimony was “unreliable” because he was a “low-level burglar and drug dealer as a kid.”
Burke joined the SCPD several years later as a beat cop at age 21. A decade later, in the mid-1990s, he was subject to an internal investigation due to his romantic relationship with a convicted prostitute and drug offender, who reportedly had access to his police cruiser and his weapon. The investigation found that Burke was responsible for “unbecoming conduct,” but it does not appear that he was formally disciplined, though according to an article in Newsday, he was passed over for a promotion as a result.


A year after Burke took over as chief, Spota’s office would decline an offer from the FBI to create a profile of the Long Island Serial Killer. Varrone and Dormer both insist that while they were working the case, the FBI was very much involved, though Varrone says an official killer profile was not created even then. Varrone says the District Attorney’s office didn’t think it was a good idea, and points out that a profile does carry a risk: If a suspect is apprehended and put to trial, but does not meet all the criteria of an FBI profile, the defense can use that to their advantage.
But as with so many parts of the LISK case, the story continued to get more bizarre and unsettling. In February, Burke pleaded guilty to charges of assaulting and threatening a suspect, Christopher Loeb, who had been taken into custody without access to a lawyer after he stole a duffel bag from Burke’s unlocked car – a bag that is believed to have contained pornography and sex toys belonging to Burke. According to the charges, he conspired with law enforcement witnesses to cover up the assault, reportedly intimidating members of his squad to keep silent. In November, he was sentenced to 46 months in prison for the unlawful interrogation and abuse of a suspect. “Burke never wanted us involved in this case because he knew we were investigating him,” an anonymous federal source told the New York Post in 2015.
Burke’s reputation as a bully, his relationship with a prostitute and the DA’s block of the FBI’s help with the LISK investigation have led to murmurings in websleuth forums that Burke has something to hide in relation to the serial killer case – though most believe that any interference with FBI’s involvement had less to do with LISK than the case that has since put him behind bars. But Loeb was arrested on December 14th, 2012, and a federal probe into Burke’s alleged misconduct began in 2013. He wasn’t under investigation in connection to Loeb’s arrest at the time a decision was made to refuse the FBI’s support. Still, that doesn’t mean he didn’t expect an investigation was imminent. According to a memo written by two SCPD officers and seen by Rolling Stone, District Attorney Spota’s office made the call to decline an FBI profile of the Long Island Serial Killer right around the time that Loeb was arrested.


Meanwhile, District Attorney Spota is facing a federal investigation of allegations that his office was complicit in patterns of illegally tracking and strong-arming political adversaries into compliance. The details of the misconduct allegations are shocking. Suffolk County executive Steve Bellone characterized the District Attorney’s office as a “criminal enterprise,” and called for Spota’s resignation earlier this year. (A representative for Spota declined an interview.)
Suffolk County Police



“When a case has been open for a significant period of time, you have to step back and take a fresh look,” says Commissioner Sini, who made clear his intentions to renew a focus on the Long Island Serial Killer investigation the day after Burke was indicted. In December 2015, Sini announced that he was bringing the FBI back in on the investigation. Sini says that there are now two detectives working full-time on the case, in complete cooperation with the FBI, which is now conducting the killer profile that Spota rejected in 2012. Former Commissioner Dormer says he believes that SCPD’s cooperation with the FBI on the LISK case ceased after Burke took over as Chief of Department. In his conversation with Rolling Stone, Commissioner Sini avoided explicit criticism of any individuals involved in the earlier stages of the investigation, but says there were “certain high-level decisions that I certainly would not have made,” namely, “not fully engaging the FBI throughout the case.”
 
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Trying to put dates when these guys were in charge from the link above.

Current SPCD Commissioner Timothy Sini at date of article 2016

Suffolk County Chief of Detectives Dominick Varrone at date of article 2016

Suffolk County Police Chief Stu Cameron retired in 2011

former Suffolk County Police Department Commissioner Richard Dormer retired 2011

James Burke, then a chief investigator in the District Attorney’s Office, would take over as police chief in January 2012. He got rid of the FBI from the investigation. He was Chief until the investigation and subsequent conviction regarding the Loeb incident in 2015/16.

The next chief was Rodney Harrison who got the breaks in the cases of the first four victims to be linked and charged to Heuermann last year. He was Chief from Nov '21 to Nov '23
 
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