Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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kdg411 said:
I think that's subjective because I don't think he does.

For example the image below is what I would describe as bushy eyebrows.

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That's hilarious since that is exactly who I pictured when the term 'bushy eyebrows' was used :rofl:

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kdg411 said:
Read what Cece Moore at Parabon Nanolabs says about the process. (Only link I could find is with DM.)

www.dailymail.co.uk

How Idaho cops used genetic genealogy to trace Bryan Kohberger

Bryan Kohberger was arrested through DNA found at the scene, that police ran through a public genetic genealogy site where they found distant relatives - likely a third, fourth or fifth cousin.
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'Genetic genealogy is only a lead generator – it’s not evidence.

'It can't be used to arrest anyone or in a warrant. We’ll write a report up, explain how we came to this conclusion, then law enforcement have to take this information and do a full investigation. It’s a highly scientific tip but police still have to start from scratch once they get it.

'They have to go and collect their DNA, which they do by following them. We've heard that's what happened in this case.

'People don't get arrested based on my work alone.
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Well yeah, that’s how the process is done. But is there anything other than speculation that this is the method they used? Nothing in the affidavit or outside of MSM indicated it. Not that they have to specify, necessarily. But I got the impression they were on to the vehicle early on, and only ran a DNA comparison when he was the suspect.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Well yeah, that’s how the process is done. But is there anything other than speculation that this is the method they used? Nothing in the affidavit or outside of MSM indicated it. Not that they have to specify, necessarily. But I got the impression they were on to the vehicle early on, and only ran a DNA comparison when he was the suspect.
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It seems to me he became the suspect on Nov 29th when the physical descriptions on his driver license showed to match DM's description of the man she she'd seen in the house.
 
nypost.com

Exclusive | Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s parents hire crime scene reconstruction expert

Forensic expert Matthew Noedel and his team were seen inspecting the home where four University of Idaho students were brutally bludgeoned on Nov. 13.
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Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s parents hire crime scene reconstruction expert​

Accused killer Bryan Kohberger’s defense team has hired a veteran Washington state crime scene reconstruction expert.

Forensic expert Matthew Noedel, owner and operator of Noedel Scientific, and his team spent five hours inside the home on 1122 King Street, Moscow, where four University of Idaho students were brutally stabbed on Nov. 13.

While Kohberger faced a Pennsylvania judge on Tuesday and agreed to be extradited to Idaho, Noedel’s team painstakingly examined the inside of the three-story house and the perimeter of the property, which had earlier been combed for evidence by police forensic teams.

The Post confirmed with Moscow Police Kohberger’s legal team, including his state-appointed defense attorney Anne Taylor, was at the home Tuesday.

Noedel was seen going in and out of the home wearing white gloves and surgical foot covers over his shoes.

According to his website, Noedel’s specialities include crime scene reconstruction, bloodstain pattern analysis and shooting reconstruction.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
nypost.com

Exclusive | Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s parents hire crime scene reconstruction expert

Forensic expert Matthew Noedel and his team were seen inspecting the home where four University of Idaho students were brutally bludgeoned on Nov. 13.
nypost.com nypost.com

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger’s parents hire crime scene reconstruction expert​

Accused killer Bryan Kohberger’s defense team has hired a veteran Washington state crime scene reconstruction expert.

Forensic expert Matthew Noedel, owner and operator of Noedel Scientific, and his team spent five hours inside the home on 1122 King Street, Moscow, where four University of Idaho students were brutally stabbed on Nov. 13.

While Kohberger faced a Pennsylvania judge on Tuesday and agreed to be extradited to Idaho, Noedel’s team painstakingly examined the inside of the three-story house and the perimeter of the property, which had earlier been combed for evidence by police forensic teams.

The Post confirmed with Moscow Police Kohberger’s legal team, including his state-appointed defense attorney Anne Taylor, was at the home Tuesday.

Noedel was seen going in and out of the home wearing white gloves and surgical foot covers over his shoes.

According to his website, Noedel’s specialities include crime scene reconstruction, bloodstain pattern analysis and shooting reconstruction.
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I'm glad they hired the dude. I'm not 100% sure he's the guy yet. At worst, I think this guy will offer a theory that the prosecution should be able to punch holes through. At best, he can prove, to me, that someone else did it.
 
I don't have a source other than a friend on the Bills board, but I trust him. However, I can't stand 100% behind its accuracy. This is the questionnaire he put up on Facebook:

Hello, my name is Bryan and I am inviting you to participate in a research project that seeks to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision-making when committing a crime. In particular, this study seeks to understand the story behind your most recent criminal offense, with an emphasis on your thoughts and feelings throughout your experience...

At the time of the crime, please indicate the following:

Were you employed? Y/N
Were you under the influence of drugs or alcohol? Y/N
Where are you experiencing? Any issues with your family? Y/N
Were you affiliated with a gang? Y/N
Was this your first offense? Y/N
Did you struggle with or fight the victim? Y/N

Open ended questions:
1. ⁠Did you prepare for the crime before leaving your home? Please detail what you were thinking and feeling at that point.
2. ⁠How did you travel to in enter the location at which the crime occurred?
3. ⁠Before making your move, how did you approach the victim or target? Please detail what you were thinking and feeling.
4. ⁠What was the first movie made in order to accomplish your goal? Please detail any thoughts and feelings at this point.
5. ⁠Before leaving, is there anything else you did?
6. ⁠How did you leave the scene?
7. ⁠After committing the crime, what we’re you thinking and feeling?
 
Regina said:
It seems to me he became the suspect on Nov 29th when the physical descriptions on his driver license showed to match DM's description of the man she she'd seen in the house.
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5'10" - 6', non muscular build, bushy eyebrows

Very vague, imo, for a person especially in a college town. That description would fit quite a large population of men.

Still waiting for that 'aha' moment so to speak that a jury wouldn't dispute.
 
octobermoon2 said:
www.cnn.com

Idaho suspect in student murders thoroughly cleaned vehicle, also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times outside family home, source says | CNN

The man accused of murdering four University of Idaho students in November had thoroughly cleaned the interior and exterior of his car and was also seen wearing surgical gloves multiple times before being apprehended, a law enforcement source tells CNN.
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After traveling across the country I'd clean out my car too. And as a germaphobe myself I wear latex gloves too.

Did LE let the evidence lead them to the POI? or
Did LE find a POI and make the evidence fit their narrative?
 
kdg411 said:
After traveling across the country I'd clean out my car too. And as a germaphobe myself I wear latex gloves too.

Did LE let the evidence lead them to the POI? or
Did LE find a POI and make the evidence fit their narrative?
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I agree, not really suspicious to clean the car after a long trip, and we wear those blue gloves for gardening and other messy chores. I think they have the right guy and am hoping they have much more. Time will tell.
 
kdg411 said:
After traveling across the country I'd clean out my car too. And as a germaphobe myself I wear latex gloves too.

Did LE let the evidence lead them to the POI? or
Did LE find a POI and make the evidence fit their narrative?
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When I clean mine out, i do it thoroughly so i can't get behind that, either. I also wear gloves often, depending on what I am doing and cleaning. Not a germaphobe, but when it's that easy to not get yuk on your hands, why not?
 
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