Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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Defense for Moscow murder suspect Bryan Kohberger granted expanded access to DNA records
The man awaiting trial on charges of killing four University of Idaho students secured access for investigators working on his behalf to sealed DNA records central to how police first landed on him as the suspect.

At the request of attorneys for defendant Bryan Kohberger, the judge overseeing the widely watched capital murder case expanded review privileges to the protected information as he continues to mount his legal defense. The court’s ruling came after a closed-door hearing on the issue held last month.

State prosecutors initially fought release of documents to the defense concerning the use of investigative genetic genealogy, or IGG, which they eventually lost in court. The advanced policing technique involves submitting DNA found at a crime scene to public genealogy websites to build a family tree and narrow the list of possible suspects in violent crimes.

Judge John Judge of Idaho’s 2nd Judicial District in Latah County ruled last yearEditSign that the defense had met the “low threshold” needed to show that at least some of the IGG records are “material to the preparation” of their client’s case.

But the Latah County Prosecutor’s Office, which is leading the prosecution of Kohberger, did not appear to formally object to allowing defense investigators to inspect the DNA records. Over the defense’s insistence, Judge did grant the prosecution’s request that the hearing be closed to the public.


Kohberger’s attorneys also asked that most of the IGG records, which state prosecutors had to acquire from the FBI after its investigators assisted in the high-profile homicide case, be unsealed and made public. They agreed that the identities of relatives to Kohberger included in the family tree process should remain withheld from the public.

Judge did not address the defense’s request to unseal additional IGG records in his ruling that expanded Kohberger’s public defense team’s access to the documents.


Another pretrial hearing in the case to set additional dates and deadlines is newly scheduled for June 27.
 
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Judge could soon set trial date for Pa. man charged in killings of 4 University of Idaho students

A judge could soon decide on a trial date for a Pennsylvania man charged in the deaths of four University of Idaho students who were killed more than a year and a half ago.
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Judge could soon set trial date for Pa. man charged in killings of 4 University of Idaho students​

A judge could soon decide on a trial date for a man charged in the deaths of four University of Idaho students who were killed more than a year and a half ago.


So far, 2nd District Judge John Judge has not set a trial date, noting that the case is particularly complicated in part because prosecutors have said they will seek the death penalty if there is a conviction.

But that could change later this month. On Thursday, Judge scheduled a June 27 hearing to discuss the schedule for the rest of the case, including dates for the trial as well as for a possible sentencing.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Defense for Moscow murder suspect Bryan Kohberger granted expanded access to DNA records
The man awaiting trial on charges of killing four University of Idaho students secured access for investigators working on his behalf to sealed DNA records central to how police first landed on him as the suspect.

At the request of attorneys for defendant Bryan Kohberger, the judge overseeing the widely watched capital murder case expanded review privileges to the protected information as he continues to mount his legal defense. The court’s ruling came after a closed-door hearing on the issue held last month.

State prosecutors initially fought release of documents to the defense concerning the use of investigative genetic genealogy, or IGG, which they eventually lost in court. The advanced policing technique involves submitting DNA found at a crime scene to public genealogy websites to build a family tree and narrow the list of possible suspects in violent crimes.

Judge John Judge of Idaho’s 2nd Judicial District in Latah County ruled last yearEditSign that the defense had met the “low threshold” needed to show that at least some of the IGG records are “material to the preparation” of their client’s case.

But the Latah County Prosecutor’s Office, which is leading the prosecution of Kohberger, did not appear to formally object to allowing defense investigators to inspect the DNA records. Over the defense’s insistence, Judge did grant the prosecution’s request that the hearing be closed to the public.


Kohberger’s attorneys also asked that most of the IGG records, which state prosecutors had to acquire from the FBI after its investigators assisted in the high-profile homicide case, be unsealed and made public. They agreed that the identities of relatives to Kohberger included in the family tree process should remain withheld from the public.

Judge did not address the defense’s request to unseal additional IGG records in his ruling that expanded Kohberger’s public defense team’s access to the documents.


Another pretrial hearing in the case to set additional dates and deadlines is newly scheduled for June 27.
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I like this judge, he seems fair to both sides.
 
Doesn't sound to me as if the prosecution really objected to it so not sure I'd call it a win. Even though I see no reason to seal most records, I do disagree with defense asking the genealogy stuff be unsealed for the public. Nothing seems to be enough for the defense.

If they are keeping BK's relatives names out of it then I think all should be kept out. What else would it show anyhow?

Article is a bit confusing and couldn't read the link for more clarity. First off I though prosecution had argued this but now they say they didn't object it seems. Then it says at defense insistence re a private hearing but in the same breath said the prosecution requested it be private from the public. WHO DID? It had a paywall or had to answer a question to see the link and I wasn't going to do either.

I don't really see the defense's big deal about any of this. It wouldn't be the first time genealogy was used to build a family tree for this purpose. i'm sure they'll make something out of it though I suppose.

I also had it in my head this had already been decided. Maybe this was just the formal part. Either way they get access and again doesn't sound like it was argued anyhow.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
Defense for Moscow murder suspect Bryan Kohberger granted expanded access to DNA records
The man awaiting trial on charges of killing four University of Idaho students secured access for investigators working on his behalf to sealed DNA records central to how police first landed on him as the suspect.

At the request of attorneys for defendant Bryan Kohberger, the judge overseeing the widely watched capital murder case expanded review privileges to the protected information as he continues to mount his legal defense. The court’s ruling came after a closed-door hearing on the issue held last month.

State prosecutors initially fought release of documents to the defense concerning the use of investigative genetic genealogy, or IGG, which they eventually lost in court. The advanced policing technique involves submitting DNA found at a crime scene to public genealogy websites to build a family tree and narrow the list of possible suspects in violent crimes.

Judge John Judge of Idaho’s 2nd Judicial District in Latah County ruled last yearEditSign that the defense had met the “low threshold” needed to show that at least some of the IGG records are “material to the preparation” of their client’s case.

But the Latah County Prosecutor’s Office, which is leading the prosecution of Kohberger, did not appear to formally object to allowing defense investigators to inspect the DNA records. Over the defense’s insistence, Judge did grant the prosecution’s request that the hearing be closed to the public.


Kohberger’s attorneys also asked that most of the IGG records, which state prosecutors had to acquire from the FBI after its investigators assisted in the high-profile homicide case, be unsealed and made public. They agreed that the identities of relatives to Kohberger included in the family tree process should remain withheld from the public.

Judge did not address the defense’s request to unseal additional IGG records in his ruling that expanded Kohberger’s public defense team’s access to the documents.


Another pretrial hearing in the case to set additional dates and deadlines is newly scheduled for June 27.
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I don’t understand why the prosecution thought they would get away with concealing any evidence against BK. Defendant has a right to see the evidence that’s being presented against him.
 
Kimster said:
I don’t understand why the prosecution thought they would get away with concealing any evidence against BK. Defendant has a right to see the evidence that’s being presented against him.
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It seems like a lot of prosecutors are taking extra time to turn things over to the defense.
 
Kimster said:
I don’t understand why the prosecution thought they would get away with concealing any evidence against BK. Defendant has a right to see the evidence that’s being presented against him.
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I don't look at it as concealed , it was sealed. Wasn't it? They've never denied it from day one as to having used such or its existence. Concealed I guess makes it sound as if they concealed there is any such info and that isn't the case. So just trying to get your meaning I guess?
 
Cousin Dupree said:
It seems like a lot of prosecutors are taking extra time to turn things over to the defense.
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This has been in court since early on. They did not delay turning it over, they argued keeping it sealed. Not anything like Delphi, etc. Judge has been aware of this and presiding over whether it should be provided or not from the start almost. If I recall, one argument may have been that it was work product (not sure, I THINK it may have been argued) and I know in our state work product IS an exception to the discovery rule.
 
I am not a Law and Crime nor a Weber fan but this was interesting. AT first I thought what kind of book could this guy have and what could he possibly know but it is pretty interesting and clearly imo he talked to the sister or someone... Towards the end the talk of Moscow, LE and some church was new to me and an odd thing. It was very interesting, the entire thing imo...

 
Kimster said:
Short hearing today. Both the prosecution and the defense is working toward a June 2025 trial date.
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Judge sets June 2025 trial date for Bryan Kohberger, suspect in Idaho college murders

A judge on Thursday set a June 2025 start date for the trial of Bryan Kohberger, the suspect accused of murdering four Idaho college students in 2022.
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A district court judge has set a June 2025 start date for the criminal trial of Bryan Kohberger, the suspect accused in the murders of four students at the University of Idaho in 2022. Both the defense and prosecuting attorneys agreed to the court's proposed trial schedule during a hearing in Latah County, where the killings happened, on Thursday. Kohberger appeared at the hearing.

Latah County District Judge John Judge said he anticipates the trial will last three months. That would account for two weeks of jury selection, eight weeks of the trial itself, and another two weeks for the verdict, sentencing and anything else remaining, he said.

The suspect's public defender, Anne Taylor, reiterated that the defense does not support his trial taking place in Latah County. There is another hearing set for Aug. 29 to deliberate a change of venue. A deadline for the defense to file motions challenging the death penalty, which prosecutors are seeking in this case, will come shortly after on Sept. 5.
 
Kimster said:
Short hearing today. Both the prosecution and the defense is working toward a June 2025 trial date.
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There was some interesting stuff in the video I posted of why the defense SHOULD want the trial in Latah County...

Also some stuff about what his defense atty is doing and not really anything that impressive.

it was an interesting watch even though Law and Crime and the book out when a gag order, t is pretty clear he talked to some key sources but did NOT violate the gag order.

Of course some is his own take on it but felt it a pretty good one with good reasons... And some is probably fact.

Defense can agree to trial now doesn't mean they won't delay it by a year from now or as it comes near.

Again, not a Law and Crime nor Weber fan but it was a good watch throughout pretty much.
 
So I have to go to work but I usually spend time before while getting ready catching up here and on YT crime podcasts, etc. And I have to say I am bored to death as I'm finding NOTHING on that interests me and it's all stuck on the drunken adults Read case. I finally came across this is my point. I already posted a link about Blum's book but this already has more info in it than I heard in the first one... Clearly he had real sources but he can't name them at this point due to the gag order. There's more in here than we knew to date about Kohberger or this case totally.

I'm only minutes in and it is already very interesting even though I'm not always a Nancy fan and now I just hit that she has CM on there too who I can't stand but still, it's interesting.

And at least it isn't Read. I have absolutely had my fill of that sh*t and absolutely everything on is the same old thing that has been hashed repeatedly over and over and over. I don't even follow it religiously as I don't have much interest in it but I can guarantee I have heard it all over and over and over even so.

Kohberger's dad just for one was already worried about Brian when he went out to Idaho... The book actually starts out from the dad's point of view... Still listening and SOOOO interesting.

 
I am going to have to rewatch this tonight when I am not getting ready for work and only can give half attention. I may also have to get Blum's book. He says Maddie was the target. Of course this is not evidence, etc. but he is basing it on info from people and using some solid reasoning on top of it.
 
You know if anyone recalls, in the beginning the Gonzalves dad seemed to try to say Kaylee was the target, had worse injuries, fought back, mentions of her having a stalker and so on and so on but here he has Maddie as the target for a few reasons, one of which he went to the Greek restaurant and she worked there, as well as other valid imo reasons.

I also forgot to mention her family (Kaylee's) also after he was arrested alluded to there was "some" kind of connection between he and Kaylee...
 
Also interesting is he lost 100 pounds and had two plastic surgeries and thought he was an Adonis and his attitude changed and his personality, became a know it all and aggressive...

Anyhow it is a book, and a panel of talking heads of course, but still very interesting...
 
And Kaylee did fight back, hard. It is opinion of course but of course then CM has to jump in and disagree with the author as the big retired cop. I dislike him. He did at least three things if not more that turned me off to him for life and he negatively affected a case or two. At times I will give someone another chance but NOT HIM.
 
I knew the trial was scheduled, hoping for anyhow as his attorney says, the date can be met, she THINKS so...

I did not realize I don't think the judge left three months open for it to go that long. My God. I get it is a DP case or think it will be or is already isn't it?

How long was Chad's? I know it was long but it wasn't any three months. And in Daybell the murders were all separate which made it a lot harder, not all murdered in one event.

I don't know how courts can even operate when three months of the calendar year are gone with one trial and that's without what it was for jury selection which I forget. Are they going to do a lot of "dark days" which I honestly have never seen or heard of until Read and HAD I ever heard of them, I'm sure I've never seen any case they took that many off every week. Again, how is it they can even operate?

Many small areas have only one judge, these days maybe two.

Anyhow, what's the need for three months?

I like the recent ones that actually ran on Saturday or ones that say they will if necessary. It's time they get with the rest of the world who don't get 8 to 4 and every holiday off and can hide vacations and such with delays purportedly for other reasons or to gain more time to prepare when they've had plenty, like some defenses do for years...

I think I watched a short Court TV on it tonight is where I got this. Pretty sure it was Court TV, yes it was. Anyhow, clip of his attorney on too saying she "thinks June" can be done... I know they want it when school is out in Moscow.... In the summer. So three months, there goes the entire summer. And if she throws a kink well then what, the NEXT June? In the meantime there goes three months of the court's calendar if a last minute delay, and then for both years.

She also pointed out to Judge Judge isn't it in this case, that he said Latah County I think it was and she is not in agreement with that as she has a change of venue motion not heard yet. He was like I KNOW that but for this moment, that's the plan. Paraphrasing. I didn't watch the actual hearing when they had it and unsure anyone else here did either so just filling a bit in.

They also touched on the recent book and of course the Gonzalves had a little bit to say about it. And I can't blame them I guess. They say it is a "story" and facts are wrong, etc. Author says with much of it, it comes from LE filings and records, etc. but other areas he speculated and said as much.

Court TV did agree with there are points both in the case and what he cites in the book that make Maddie the likely target.

I guess someone IS profiting before the case is tried with some of it supposition. He also alludes to sources due to the gag order he can't talk of. Nancy Grace and Court TV on themselves flocked right to it though and had him on.

It was a short show, I forget, 10, 20, 25 minutes? Covering a few things along with some clips from the recent hearing, the trial scheduled length, the book, Kaylee's parents' statements about it, etc.
Sorry I don't have a link, watched it hours earlier and I only actually came in to tell of the trial length but then started recalling some of the rest.
 
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