Four students murdered at University of Idaho *ARREST*

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Got my Masters degree from here. :(

Killer who stabbed 4 Idaho students to death still at large​

The killer — or killers — who stabbed four University of Idaho students to death remained at large Tuesday, prompting many students to leave the campus in the idyllic small town despite police assurances that there was no imminent risk to the community.

So many students had left the scenic tree-lined campus in Moscow, Idaho, by Tuesday that university officials said a candlelight vigil scheduled for the next day would instead be held after the Thanksgiving break.

The students, all close friends, were found dead in an off-campus rental home around noon on Sunday, and officials said they likely were killed several hours earlier. Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt told the Spokane, Washington-based television station KXLY that her preliminary investigation showed the students were stabbed to death. There is no indication that substance use was involved in the deaths, Mabbutt said.
 
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SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
idahonews.com

Bryan Kohberger files motion to wear street clothes at trial

Kohberger was recently booked into the Ada County Jail after the trial was moved to Boise.
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Bryan Kohberger files motion to wear street clothes at trial
According to court documents, Bryan Kohberger, the man accused of killing four University of Idaho students, filed a motion for him to attend all public hearings in street clothes.

The motion says a person appearing before the jury in jail clothing would impact the presumption of innocence, and, with Kohberger's trial receiving the media coverage it has, may impact his right to a fair trial.

You can read the full court document below. [at link]
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Oh brother.

My prediction is coming true. He's trying all the stops in order to "finish his thesis". The thesis in his own mind!
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
idahonews.com

Bryan Kohberger files motion to wear street clothes at trial

Kohberger was recently booked into the Ada County Jail after the trial was moved to Boise.
idahonews.com idahonews.com
Bryan Kohberger files motion to wear street clothes at trial
According to court documents, Bryan Kohberger, the man accused of killing four University of Idaho students, filed a motion for him to attend all public hearings in street clothes.

The motion says a person appearing before the jury in jail clothing would impact the presumption of innocence, and, with Kohberger's trial receiving the media coverage it has, may impact his right to a fair trial.

You can read the full court document below. [at link]
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I thought all defendants were allowed to wear street clothes.
 
Nate. First part is a quick but on Daybell demolition on home. Next part is Kohberger. When did the judge change and why? I forget if I even knew.

This judge is concerned with it being set for summer because jurors and parents have kids out of school, plans, etc. and thinks it would be burdensome. First judge when set in Moscow ID I believe wanted trial during the summer when college is not in session etc. to save the college kids, high school even, etc. from it. I said awhile back that the problem with delays by defense is it goes a year out since they wanted it in summer. This one does not. So now next thing is choice of May I think said or September of 2025, around summer schedules.... I haven't watched it all but prosecution wants May and defense wants September of course....

So delay. And then there is Daybell stuff but I have not gotten that far yet. Nate hasn't done a lot of Kohberger, I wonder if he is considering getting more into that one...

 
I never actually finished the above but as I wind down tired tonight, I put it back on. Nate had a couple of women on who attended the hearing in person and I gather they went to Chad's trial too. Was kind of interesting. They said BK is not as tall as one would have thought nor as imposing but also talk of him and his lack of life and his eyes as almost an inanimate object. It is just talk but I found it pretty interestinmg from someone who was there. Is Nate thinking about taking this one on...
 
I didn't think there'd really be much new on here or of interest but did start watching, found little on and like listening to something as I slowly ready for work...

We know Steve Goncalvez is not a quiet dad, I liken him to Dylan Rounds' mom and see both pluses and negatives in that, but can't knock the fact they are not going to sit and just take things.

Anyhow... He says he thinks it is going to be found and even proven that BK planned this when he was still in PA and he left home with an intention of killing people. He talks of is obsession with the law, crimes, etc. and he thinks he I believe he said reverse engineered his plan. Thinks he meant to outdo other serial killers or mass killers in that area, etc. NOT necessarily targeting his daughter or this bunch back at that point but had an intent of killing people and was planning to before he ever left PA.

He seems to PERHAPS know something, hard to say. Wouldn't be the first time I guess and does he really, but it isn't hard to believe either... With this creepy BK... I mean he crossed the country to go to school, and seems like a "kid" his parents should have never let be that far away as he couldn't even function with society could he...? Of course he was no minor.

Anyhow, it's Nancy, and I didn't expect much but dad is on and so I'm watching... And that part and a bit more is interesting... Not done yet.

 
Interesting bit about him challenging the female cop on the law, who pulled him over making her look up the law and give him the statute or law or whatever and its details...
 
About 31 minutes in, ten plus to go. Worth watching. Steve is now talking about his preferential treatment (BK's) versus the next criminal that comes in, or the one before him and who is it he asks who made these decisions.

It's well worth a watch imo and some good points made. Not sure if I would have watched all but for the fact dad is on.

I mean there is b.s. going on in our system and he points some of such out, and how they are going to call it out.

How is BK getting designer haircuts? Good question... He didn't say this but I am--I suppose his atty can bring him in a new suit each time maybe, but who is paying for such? The State? Who? And can she cut hair too? Is that her sideline when not busy with DP cases? Or can she bring In a stylist with scissors to the cell of a man accused of mass murder...? Again these are MY thoughts and remarks. He didn't say this part.
 
It's so hard with Nancy when I know she means it all but comes across so overly drippy and emotional and fakey. It probably isn't fake, she probably means every word but she just pours it on so it seems so fake. However, this was a good show, and hearing all from Steve worth a watch by far.
 
One last thing, they are raising money to attend three months of trial I think it was said(??) and rent a home in Boise, cover three months of missed work for the family, etc. Boise is hours away from them and not happy with the decision, can't blame them. They can't go back and forth every day. There are like ten that will attend. I think, if I heard it right. We had more than that and I can't imagine how it would be if THREE months and we had to travel hours away. As it was two of us had to travel out of state for every single hearing over years. And trial lasted a week and it took some major planning and it was right in the county of where most of my family lived.

I would often knock GFMs but not this one. They've never looked for ANYTHING to my knowledge.
 
localnews8.com

Brian Kohberger's murder trial has a start date - Local News 8

Brian Kohberger's trial is expected to begin on August 11th.
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Brian Kohberger’s murder trial has a start date​

New developments in a high-profile quadruple murder case.

We now know when Brian Kohberger will stand trial.

The trial is expected to begin on August 11th.

It will run through November 7th next year.

Jury selection is scheduled to begin July 30th.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
localnews8.com

Brian Kohberger's murder trial has a start date - Local News 8

Brian Kohberger's trial is expected to begin on August 11th.
localnews8.com localnews8.com

Brian Kohberger’s murder trial has a start date​

New developments in a high-profile quadruple murder case.

We now know when Brian Kohberger will stand trial.

The trial is expected to begin on August 11th.

It will run through November 7th next year.

Jury selection is scheduled to begin July 30th.
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August 11th til November 7th? There isn't that much to be presented, is there. He was driving around the area and his DNA is on the knife sheath left behind.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
August 11th til November 7th? There isn't that much to be presented, is there. He was driving around the area and his DNA is on the knife sheath left behind.
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It's partly that long because the death penalty is on the table.

nypost.com

Trial date set in Bryan Kohberger’s Idaho murder case, expected to last three months with death penalty phase

The trial against University of Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger has been scheduled to start next summer.
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The trial against University of Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger will start next summer and last over three months long — in part because jurors will deliberate over the death penalty, according to new court filings.

The lengthy trial is partially due to the fact that there will be two phases — one to determine Kohberger’s guilt or innocence to four counts of first-degree murder and felony burglary and a second phase, if he’s found guilty, to determine whether he should receive the death penalty.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
August 11th til November 7th? There isn't that much to be presented, is there. He was driving around the area and his DNA is on the knife sheath left behind.
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Besides the DP, just like with some other cases, we don't know what all they have. They have kept things very close to the vest in this one.
 
I'd add that the defense atty needed more time because of the sheer volume of discovery, they were going speedy trial too and she had to drop it (though I figure she always knew they would)...
 
www.wfmz.com

Prosecutors argue against Kohberger attempts to strike aggravating factors, remove death penalty

Prosecutors working on the Bryan Kohberger case have responded to attempts to strike aggravating factors and avoid the death penalty in the trial of the Poconos man.
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Prosecutors argue against Kohberger attempts to strike aggravating factors, remove death penalty​

Prosecutors working on the Bryan Kohberger case have responded to attempts to strike aggravating factors and avoid the death penalty in the trial of the Poconos man who is accused of killing four University of Idaho students in 2022.

Prosecuting attorney William Thompson Jr. and special assistant attorneys in Idaho filed a host of objections to Kohberger's defense team arguments that aggravating factors should be nullified and the death penalty should not be on the table.

Among their objections, prosecutors wrote that the court should reject the "[d]efendant's facial challenges to lethal injection and the firing squad because
the U.S. Supreme Court has already found those methods of execution constitutional."

Kohberger's team also argued that the death penalty should not be sought on grounds of international law, saying that the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights prohibits "'cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment'" and prohibits the arbitrary deprivation of life."

Prosecutors urged the court to deny Kohberger's "invitation to entertain this novel and unprecedented theory," and said the U.S. specifically carved out an exception for capital punishment in the ICCPR, through which "the United States unambiguously reserved the right to impose capital punishment in accordance with the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution, which is the appropriate authority and binding law on this Court."

Throughout its responses, prosecutors critiqued the Kohberger's lawyers' interpretation of case law and said their arguments conflict with well-established legal precedent.

A hearing on the death penalty issue is scheduled for Nov. 7.
 
SheWhoMustNotBeNamed said:
www.wfmz.com

Prosecutors argue against Kohberger attempts to strike aggravating factors, remove death penalty

Prosecutors working on the Bryan Kohberger case have responded to attempts to strike aggravating factors and avoid the death penalty in the trial of the Poconos man.
www.wfmz.com www.wfmz.com

Prosecutors argue against Kohberger attempts to strike aggravating factors, remove death penalty​

Prosecutors working on the Bryan Kohberger case have responded to attempts to strike aggravating factors and avoid the death penalty in the trial of the Poconos man who is accused of killing four University of Idaho students in 2022.

Prosecuting attorney William Thompson Jr. and special assistant attorneys in Idaho filed a host of objections to Kohberger's defense team arguments that aggravating factors should be nullified and the death penalty should not be on the table.

Among their objections, prosecutors wrote that the court should reject the "[d]efendant's facial challenges to lethal injection and the firing squad because
the U.S. Supreme Court has already found those methods of execution constitutional."

Kohberger's team also argued that the death penalty should not be sought on grounds of international law, saying that the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights prohibits "'cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment'" and prohibits the arbitrary deprivation of life."

Prosecutors urged the court to deny Kohberger's "invitation to entertain this novel and unprecedented theory," and said the U.S. specifically carved out an exception for capital punishment in the ICCPR, through which "the United States unambiguously reserved the right to impose capital punishment in accordance with the Fifth, Eighth, and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution, which is the appropriate authority and binding law on this Court."

Throughout its responses, prosecutors critiqued the Kohberger's lawyers' interpretation of case law and said their arguments conflict with well-established legal precedent.

A hearing on the death penalty issue is scheduled for Nov. 7.
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The international covenant? Never heard of that before. Let’s continue on with the death penalty. I don’t think the State of Idaho will rest unless the death penalty is on the table.
 
Kimster said:
The international covenant? Never heard of that before. Let’s continue on with the death penalty. I don’t think the State of Idaho will rest unless the death penalty is on the table.
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International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights

Entry into force: 23 March 1976, in accordance with Article 49 Preamble The States Parties to the present Covenant, Considering that, in accordance with the principles proclaimed in the Charter of the United Nations, recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of...
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They're out of line with that one.

2. In countries which have not abolished the death penalty, sentence of death may be imposed only for the most serious crimes in accordance with the law in force at the time of the commission of the crime and not contrary to the provisions of the present Covenant and to the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. This penalty can only be carried out pursuant to a final judgement rendered by a competent court.
 
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