JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events

• April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
• December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
• February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
• February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
• June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
• July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
• August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
• September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
• September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
• September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
• September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
• October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
• October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
• October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
• October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
• Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
• November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
• November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
• December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
• December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
• December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
• January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
• January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

www.eastidahonews.com

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[Kimster]

I'm confused! So Joe helped Tylee buy the Jeep?

 

[Kimster]

I assume she's talking about Adam.




And my response here is "everyone is causing her trouble that won't do what she wants!"

 

[Kimster]

Did Leticia Stauch write this fairy tale?

 

[Kimster]

 

[Kimster]

I have to leave in about 5 minutes. Here's a link to where I left off on Nate Eaton's thread. I haven't used the East Idaho news link much this afternoon as it wasn't updating regularly.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Why couldn’t it be a second call that we don’t know about?

It could, I just mean I don't think it is the known one as Nate to me made it sound as if it would surprise us all. Or at least that's how I took it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Mel B/P idolized Lori almost as much as Alex did.

Most definitely.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I took it to mean that they’ve never found his phone.

Like you, the fact they bought the self defense garbage in this case is maddening. Lori said she took his phone and it upset him so here is yet ANOTHER thing that should have caused them doubts. If he had a phone when he came to Lori's and died at Lori's there SHOULD have been a phone so why didn't they ask for it or ask where it was?

 

[GrandmaBear]

If someone came over to my house, and my son was visiting, let’s say, and then they got into an altercation and one of them had some kind of a weapon like a knife, I could go into my bedroom and get my firearm and if the knife looked like it was going to be a threat to kill my son, damn straight I would use it.

I think they didn’t call 911 until they came up with this kind of a scenario to use as an alibi.

That's true, we would defend our family, etc. BUT the way I recall the story, Lori didn't see the shooting did she? She and the kids got out with Tylee sent back in for her mom's purse. So who was he defending at that point? I'd have to go back and look at her story but that's how I recall it. Every time I heard it, I thought so why coudln't Alex just leave if he had time to get his gun, and thought that's not self defense if a "fight" pauses and then you go back and shoot the guy.

 

[GrandmaBear]

I wonder who got to hit Alex with a baseball bat?

A good friend of Alex's said that Alex was a softball player and if he hit someone with a bat their head would come clean off.

That was said about Charles not Alex.

 

[GrandmaBear]

9:04 a.m. Alex told Moffatt multiple times that he was not at the house to protect Lori. But Lori was in another room being questioned and told her interviewing detective that she had called Alex over the night before to protect her from Charles.

Their stories don't jive and this isn't a red flag? I hate to sound like a broken record, but the fact they didn't arrest Alex that day will forever piss me off.

I feel the same. There were soooo many reasons their story shouldn't have been bought.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Do you have any idea how much paperwork would be involved in calling it murder?

They are cops. If they don't want to handle a murder and other crimes and paperwork, then go be a dishwasher.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Further proof that Lori thought she was the beneficiary to Charles' life insurance.


9:12 a.m. Blake asks Moffatt if finances are often a motive for homicide. He says yes. Moffatt says they learned Charles had a $1 million policy and there had been a recent change in the beneficiary. It had recently been changed from Lori to Kay Woodcock. When Moffatt contacted the insurance company on July 17, he learned Lori had tried to file a claim. It was denied and Lori never received a payout.

This jives with what I've always thought or heard. She pretty quickly tried to file a claim and that's how she found out she was not the beneficiary. They didn't tell her who was but could tell her she was not.

 

[GrandmaBear]

That's the point.

It wasn't what you said though.

 

[GrandmaBear]

Mel G's hubby has been listening to Mel's testimony and he was supposed to NOT listen, so now there's a problem.

10:32 a.m. This questioning is being done without the presence of the jury. Boyce will determine if Warwick should be allowed to testify today even though he listened to his wife’s testimony. Warwick says it has not affected his ability to give a fair testimony. Archibald says Warwick has violated court rules and should be excluded from testifying. Smith says the court should consider whether any harm has been done to his testimony and argues there was no willful misconduct.
10:36 a.m. Archibald: “There’s a reason we have rules and we don’t just say, ‘Golly gee, my bad.’ He’s accessing information on the internet. His motivation is irrelevant. He purposely accessed it and not only that, accessed other articles about people in this case. There is a rule and there’s a reason we have a rule and it’s to protect the integrity of the court.”

I have to agree with Archibald on this complaint! Judge Boyce was going to let him testify but now the attorneys went into a sidebar conference. Personally, I'm concerned there will be an appeal granted if they let Warwick testify.

You have got to be kidding me. How dare they try to destroy this case?!!

I don't know how widely known it is but I and I've seen a few others be vocal about the fact in Chad's preliminary hearing, Mel G's and David's facts didn't match. They were sequestered so the second one testifying couldn't hear the first one. They are well aware of this. He was watching I will guarantee you so if he testifies he would MATCH what she said. Sequestering and the rules are darned well used for a reason!

HOW was this found out, how did the court become aware of it?

How DARE they!

They need to ditch him as a witness imo. I hate to side with the defense but this is NOT okay imo. The prosecution shouldn't even fight to keep him as they are! I would think definite appeals grounds if they use him.

Their stories not matching was one of many reasons for my opinion of Mel Gibb and not believing her to be truthful.

 

[GrandmaBear]

The judge is letting Warwick, Mel G/W's husband as of 2021, testify after all.

10:51 a.m. When Warwick met Lori the first week of August 2019, she was recently widowed from Charles Vallow. Warwick met Lori at her house. Chad, Alex, Melani Boudreaux, Zulema Pastenes, another lady and Melanie Gibb were all there. Warwick had never met Chad in-person but they had spoken on the phone. A few years earlier, Chad reached out to Warwick and wanted to write a book with him. The book never happened because Warwick didn’t feel it was right and Chad wasn’t the one to write a book with.
10:54 a.m. “Lori was an amazing hostess. She was fixing food. We were having a social.” Warwick then met Lori later at her apartment in Rexburg, Idaho. He was dating Gibb during this visit to Rexburg.
10:55 a.m. Warwick traveled to Rexburg the weekend of Sept. 20-23, 2019 to see his son in Pocatello, for a Book of Mormon conference and to record a podcast with Lori and Gibb at Lori’s apartment.

Well we aren't lawyers or judges but I think this was the wrong choice. What is Boyce thinking?! First we have Mel almost confirming a lie about Lori and the life insurance beneficiary of Charles and whether she knew, now David looks for her testimony. Letting in all the stuff about Charles' death seems a bit overboard too. I could see some to show a conspiracy of all but they went through basically all of it. We already had concern about the speedy trial as a possible appeal. And lost the death penalty. I DO NOT TRUST any of this case. Maybe Archibald isn't doing much as he doesn't have to... And knows it.

 

[GrandmaBear]

11:02 a.m. Warwick says he didn’t believe Chad and told him he didn’t believe it. Chad then had Warwick and Gibb meet him and Lori at a property next to a church. They started describing a heavenly building next to the church – not a physical building but a spiritual building. Warwick could not see the building but was trying to be respectful and follow along with what Chad and Lori were saying.

11:04 a.m. Later in the weekend, Chad wanted Warwick to see 80 acres for sale near Chad’s home. Warwick knew an investor who wanted to develop property in Idaho so Alex Cox took Warwick to the field. Chad and a realtor showed up and asked if Warwick had any questions. Warwick said he didn’t do business on Sunday so nothing really came of it.

11:06 a.m. Warwick saw Chad again that weekend. He says Chad and Lori were very loving with one another and very affectionate. Warwick knew Chad was still married to Tammy. “I asked Chad about how his marriage was with Tammy and if she was a good wife. He said he had no complaints and she was a good wife but her time was coming up and he and Lori were going to do the things they needed to do for God.” Chad told Warwick he had a dream three years prior that Tammy was going to die by the time Chad was 50.

His testimony is more of what I've heard before when he testified before the grand jury.

You might be thinking of Chad's preliminary hearing in court, not grand jury?

11:02, told Chad he didn't believe what?

 

[GrandmaBear]

Archibald is hitting Warwick hard about their religious beliefs. I guess that's about all Lori has to defend herself, that her friends are zealots, too. I don't know how that would help her much, however.

I don't either. It also shows that Mel G. likely didn't doubt Lori and Chad as much as she tries to claim with the zombie thing and visions and other things because she had one of her own at home who had visions, etc. All a bunch of sane whackadoodles if you ask me. Or more like it these visions and things brought them followers in podcasts, Preparing the People, Chad's books, all of it. Profit, money, followers, etc.

 

[Cousin Dupree]

That was said about Charles not Alex.

That's what I meant.

 

[GrandmaBear]

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Rachel Smith says the trial is moving much quicker than originally thought and prosecutors propose taking tomorrow off. The defense has no problem with this so there will be no court tomorrow.

Uhm so the court will hear other cases then right, no waste of time/slow wheels of justice, delay here, delay other cases? Yeah right. Jurors might not mind a day off but I'd lay wagers on they'd rather be done with the trial sooner rather than later to get back to their lives.