JOSHUA "JJ" VALLOW, TYLEE RYAN, TAMMY DAYBELL, & CHARLES VALLOW: State of Idaho/Arizona vs. Lori & Chad Daybell *GUILTY*

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Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua “JJ” Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.

Since that time, the story has gained international attention as it’s taken twists and turns involving a purported cult, dead spouses, delusions of divinity and preparing for the end of the world. Despite all the angles, and the ever-growing number of people related to the case, the facts remain essentially the same as when it was first announced.

The two children remain missing and the parents, Lori (Vallow) Daybell, and her new husband, Chad Daybell, refuse to disclose their whereabouts to police. Both have been named persons of interest in the disappearance of the children. Law enforcement is also investigating the deaths of the Daybells’ previous respective spouses, Charles Vallow and Tammy Daybell, though neither Chad nor Lori have been named suspects in those cases.

Written timeline of events
  • April 3, 2018 - Tylee Ryan's father, Joseph Ryan, dies. Death ruled heart attack.
  • December 2018 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow make first appearance on Preparing a People podcast.
  • February 2019 - Charles Vallow files for divorce from Lori, claiming she viewed herself as a god preparing for the second coming, and she would kill him if he got in her way.
  • February - April 2019 - Lori disappears for nearly two months, leaving her children with others.
  • June 2019 - Lori's niece demands a divorce from her husband, who says she shares similar beliefs to her aunt.
  • July 11, 2019 - Charles Vallow shot and killed by Lori's brother Alex Cox. Shooting initially ruled self-defense.
  • August 2019 - Lori moves to Rexburg, Idaho with kids
  • September 3, 2019 - Joshua "JJ" Vallow enrolled in school
  • September 23, 2019 - JJ last attended school
  • September 24, 2019 - Lori unenrolls JJ from school, saying she would be homeschooling him.
  • September 2019 - Tylee also seen in September, but it's unclear when and where (she had graduated early)
  • October 2, 2019 - Lori's niece's ex-husband was shot at, missing his head by inches. Shooter was driving a vehicle registered to Charles Vallow.
  • October 9, 2019 - Tammy Daybell, Chad's wife, called 911 and said a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun.
  • October 19, 2019 - Tammy Daybell dies, death is ruled natural
  • October 25, 2019 - Tylee, or someone using her phone, texts a friend
  • Late October / Early November 2019 - Chad Daybell & Lori Vallow get married
  • November 26, 2019 - Welfare check requested for JJ at the request of extended family - police are told he is in Arizona with family, but he is not
  • November 27, 2019 - Police return to serve a search warrant, finding the Daybell's gone
  • December 12, 2019 - Lori's brother, who had shot her ex-husband, dies mysteriously in Arizona
  • December 20, 2019 - Search for JJ and Tylee goes public
  • December 30, 2019 - LE says Lori knows where her children are but will not cooperate
  • January 25, 2020 - Chad & Lori are located in Hawaii, served with a notice that she must produce the children within 5 days
  • January 30, 2020 - Lori fails to produce JJ and Tylee
www.eastidahonews.com

The latest timeline in the cases of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Police seem to be no closer to finding 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 17-year-old Tylee Ryan than they were when this story began months ago.
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Are Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow Daybell serial killers? Has their doomsday cult finally ended? Keep up-to-date on this bizarre case!

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Kimster said:
1:10 p.m. Next witness is FBI Intelligence Analyst Benjamin Dean. He has worked for the FBI for the past 8.5 years.
He's an expert in analyzing electronic devices and was asked to check out electronic devices taken from Chad's house in Jan 2020.

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Dean was asked to review two BlueRay discs seized from Chad's house. Rammell asks about the second disc. Dean says the disc belonged to Seth Daybell, Chad's son.
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Am I missing something? Who keeps such things on a Blue Ray disk? And mostly info of Tammy's it seems.
 
Cousin Dupree said:
homer simpson doh GIF


That's what I meant.
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Well then you should have said Charles if Charles was who you meant. Duh. Lol.
 
GrandmaBear said:
Yes. What? Her dead dad was on the title? Or she had it from him before he died and the b.s. about Charles buying it was b.s.? I doubt it, would she have even been 16 when he died?
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He died in April 2018. I think Tylee was born Sept. 2002. So she would have been 15 when he died. Old enough for a learner permit?

Let me check her dob. Its sept 2002. So yeah, she was 15.
 
RoundPeg said:
He died in April 2018. I think Tylee was born Sept. 2003. So she would have been 15 when he died. Old enough for a learner permit?

Let me check her dob.
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I think it very unlikely a Jeep was bought for her by Joe before she had a license. It has always been said to have been Charles so can't figure out why Joe would be on the Jeep UNLESS Joe owned the Jeep and Tylee came into its possession on his death. Maybe took over the payments with the help of Charles or some such? Redid a loan but not the registration? Makes no sense really.
 
GrandmaBear said:
I think it very unlikely a Jeep was bought for her by Joe before she had a license. It has always been said to have been Charles so can't figure out why Joe would be on the Jeep UNLESS Joe owned the Jeep and Tylee came into its possession on his death. Maybe took over the payments with the help of Charles or some such? Redid a loan but not the registration? Makes no sense really.
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The PCA says it was registered to Charles Vallow. The witness probably misspoke. If that's the case, hopefully he is recalled to give a correction.
 
RoundPeg said:
The PCA says it was registered to Charles Vallow. The witness probably misspoke. If that's the case, hopefully he is recalled to give a correction.
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Hmm. I guess it could be something so simple as he had in his head her "dad" bought it for her and Charles was stepdad but he knew Joe was dad.

It likely isn't huge but it is odd and should be corrected as each thing in this case seems to mean something when you consider Lori used different names, used Charles' accounts, etc. so a wrong name on a title/registration, who knows if it is meaningful or not...
 
Cousin Dupree said:
No, when the police showed up Alex had a red area on his head that he said was from Charles hitting him with a bat. So in order for him to have that, somebody must have hit him after the story was arranged.
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I think it's possible he hit it on the floor when the two of them fell to the floor struggling. So he then lied and said that it was from the baseball bat as justification for the shooting.
 
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Kimster said:
Mel G's hubby has been listening to Mel's testimony and he was supposed to NOT listen, so now there's a problem.

10:32 a.m. This questioning is being done without the presence of the jury. Boyce will determine if Warwick should be allowed to testify today even though he listened to his wife’s testimony. Warwick says it has not affected his ability to give a fair testimony. Archibald says Warwick has violated court rules and should be excluded from testifying. Smith says the court should consider whether any harm has been done to his testimony and argues there was no willful misconduct.
10:36 a.m. Archibald: “There’s a reason we have rules and we don’t just say, ‘Golly gee, my bad.’ He’s accessing information on the internet. His motivation is irrelevant. He purposely accessed it and not only that, accessed other articles about people in this case. There is a rule and there’s a reason we have a rule and it’s to protect the integrity of the court.”

I have to agree with Archibald on this complaint! Judge Boyce was going to let him testify but now the attorneys went into a sidebar conference. Personally, I'm concerned there will be an appeal granted if they let Warwick testify.
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What a dick that guy is? Did he do that on purpose? Nobody is that stupid.
 
Kimster said:


Did Leticia Stauch write this fairy tale?
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I was wondering exactly where she pulls these stories from too. :LOL:
Probably from out of her aris.

NB. Cockney Rhyming Slang.
For example, the word "Aris" is often used to indicate the buttocks. This is the result of a double rhyme, starting with the original rough synonym "arse", which is rhymed with "bottle and glass", leading to "bottle". "Bottle" was then rhymed with "Aristotle" and truncated to "Aris".
 
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Has anyone ever listened to this before? It was recorded in Oct 2018. She sounds batsh*t crazy. I couldn't listen to it all but just to bits of it before I had had enough.

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Audio recording captures Lori Daybell saying she 'was going to murder' her third husband - East Idaho News

REXBURG — Newly released audio of Lori Vallow Daybell appears to show her justifying the concept of murder using verses of religious scriptures. The recording came from October 2018 and was shared with EastIdahoNews.com by Annie Cushing, the sister of Daybell’s third ex-husband, Joseph Ryan. The...
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It almost seems like the defence is just going thru the motions of a trial here. There does not appear to have been any major cross examinations by them.

Also, why have we had no cause of death discussed by LE or autopsy results of JJ and Tylee? Or have I missed that?

Also, why so long ( 8 months ) between the Rexburg search warrants and the exhumations at the Daybell residence?
Between Aug and December 2019 there were 5 deaths/disappearances.

What do you make of it all so far? I cannot get over the accused being shackled to the floor. That has to be because they think she will launch herself at the witnesses, judge, jury, attorneys etc.

Only thing like this I have seen before is the Golden State Killer shackled to his wheelchair.
 
Tresir said:
It almost seems like the defence is just going thru the motions of a trial here. There does not appear to have been any major cross examinations by them.

Also, why have we had no cause of death discussed by LE or autopsy results of JJ and Tylee? Or have I missed that?

Also, why so long ( 8 months ) between the Rexburg search warrants and the exhumations at the Daybell residence?
Between Aug and December 2019 there were 5 deaths/disappearances.

What do you make of it all so far? I cannot get over the accused being shackled to the floor. That has to be because they think she will launch herself at the witnesses, judge, jury, attorneys etc.

Only thing like this I have seen before is the Golden State Killer shackled to his wheelchair.
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I think they were getting search warrants for the phones is part of the delay. Lori was arrested for abandonment in February of 2020. At that time, it was still being treated (legally) as missing persons. I think it was the GPS history on Alex's phone and things like Chad's raccoon text that finally led to the yard in June.

I have mixed feelings about Lori being shackled to the floor. On one hand, she's a known flight risk. On the other, prosecution has a circumstantial case that so far hasn't put any weapons in her hands. It may look like they're using theatrics (shackles) to increase the suggestion she's a violent criminal. Overall, I'm not sure she should be shackled.
 
RoundPeg said:
I think they were getting search warrants for the phones is part of the delay. Lori was arrested for abandonment in February of 2020. At that time, it was still being treated (legally) as missing persons. I think it was the GPS history on Alex's phone and things like Chad's raccoon text that finally led to the yard in June.

I have mixed feelings about Lori being shackled to the floor. On one hand, she's a known flight risk. On the other, prosecution has a circumstantial case that so far hasn't put any weapons in her hands. It may look like they're using theatrics (shackles) to increase the suggestion she's a violent criminal. Overall, I'm not sure she should be shackled.
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Well I certainly don't understand it unless the mental evaluation has shown things we don't know about her as yet.

Alex and Chad appear to have been her lackies/weapons.
 
Tresir said:
Maybe the last call they had between each other? Now the trials are separate.
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Yeah, been busy but we haven't had the answer yet have we? My guess is, even though I think the world of Nate, it may not be as big of a bombshell as it sounds it will be... I don't know...

Maybe there is one phone call of many whether to Chad or anyone that has something in it that is like WOWZA but I guess we have to wait to see...
 
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