LIBBY GERMAN & ABBY WILLIAMS: Indiana vs. Richard Allen for 2017 murder of two Delphi girls *TRIAL IN PROGRESS*

On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail Williams and Liberty German were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, which is part of the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. The murders have received significant media coverage because a photo and audio recording of an individual believed to be the girls' murderer was found on German's smartphone. Despite the audio and video recordings of the suspect that have been circulated and the more than 26,000 tips that police have received, no arrest in the case has been made.[1][2][3]

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Police have not publicly stated nor released details of how the girls were murdered.[6] As early as February 15, 2017, Indiana State Police began circulating a still image of an individual reportedly seen on the Monon High Bridge Trail near where the two friends were slain; the grainy photograph appearing to capture a Caucasian male, with hands in pockets, walking on the rail bridge, head down, toward the girls.[4] A few days later, the person in the photograph was named the prime suspect in the double-homicide.[5]

On February 22, law enforcement released an audio recording where the voice of the assailant,[7] though in some degree muffled, is heard to say, "Down the hill." It was at this news conference that officials credited the source of the audio and imagery to German's smartphone, and, further, regarded her as a hero for having had the uncanny foresight and fortitude to record the exchange in secret. Police indicated that additional evidence from the phone had been secured, but that they did not release it so as not to "compromise any future trial." By this time, the reward offered in the case was set at $41,000.[5]


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You don't think forcing two teenage girls to undress at gunpoint is sexual assault?
I don't think it's assault. No contact. But to me it is STILL a crime. "Lewd and lascivious conduct"? That's difficult l. You don't usually hear where they weren't assaulted. It's kidnapping to me first of all. I really don't know. But, Did he threaten them?. I haven't read he did. But if he did. "Terroristic Threats". This case is so different than most. It goes in 50 different directions. Rumors have been rampant. This is true. Now it's not. It is true again. And Abby and Libby have gotten lost in the madness. And that's who this is all about. If they weren't murdered. This wouldn't be going on. 2017! Just ridiculous!!! I put it into perspective in my 2017 to now. They were killed 7 months before my mom was diagnosed. 11/2017. She died 12/30/18. So my mom has been gone almost 5 years. So their families have been grieving and pushed aside THAT LONG!!! STILL NO JUSTICE!!! And another thing is. I know why my mom died. These were murdered children. :cry:
 
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I don't think it's assault. No contact. But to me it is STILL a crime. "Lewd and lascivious conduct"? That's difficult l. You don't usually hear where they weren't assaulted. It's kidnapping to me first of all. I really don't know. But, Did he threaten them?. I haven't read he did. But if he did. "Terroristic Threats". This case is so different than most. It goes in 50 different directions. Rumors have been rampant. This is true. Now it's not. It is true again. And Abby and Libby have gotten lost in the madness. And that's who this is all about. If they weren't murdered. This wouldn't be going on. 2017! Just ridiculous!!! I put it into perspective in my 2017 to now. They were killed 7 months before my mom was diagnosed. 11/2017. She died 12/30/18. So my mom has been gone almost 5 years. So their families have been grieving and pushed aside THAT LONG!!! STILL NO JUSTICE!!! And another thing is. I know why my mom died. These were murdered children. :cry:
Forcing them to do something at gunpoint eg go down the hill is kidnapping and assault. Forcing them to undress at gunpoint is therefore sexual assault.
 
I think the same. Because he didn't touch them. However, There are other serious charges. But IMO They would have a hard time charging him with that charge. I think the incident can be charged as a crime. Just under a different charge.
He used the gun to kidnap them off the trails and to then force them to undress in the woods, subsequently killing them with a knife. What offences do you think he committed?

What actually has he been charged with? Just murder?
 
I've been discussing this case with a friend and this is what they've noticed:

Feeling like there is something wrong with the timeline.
a) The proposed timeline belongs to a meticulous genius; RA is neither.
b) There is no motive/purpose with this proposed timeline; timeline denies self-gratification; no motive for the reverent cleaning, staging;
c) the proposed timeline does not match with Libby's phone's ping record,
d) there is every reason to explore alternate timelines (beyond RA),
e) what's the TOD report range for each victim,
f) there's no determination where the two murders happen; (maybe for one only); where for the other; where's the blood?.
g) there's a bleed-out timeline for each victim depending on injury; 2 min to 20 min - what time is allowed?
h) re-dressing and staging timeline?
i) the LE investigation shows that originally, a longer timeline was presumed by all experts,
j) the public's been provided a grainy video that's been highly edited one second clip with disembodied voice and without clarity as to how it's been edited.
k) early crime scene's reporting highlighted the staging ... for a reason; now LE belittles it. What's different? The timeline.

I feel this way as well -
- the LE timeline (for RA) is just not long enough to allow for all the movements and distance covered during the events that happened.

JHMO
 

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